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Elver
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Posted: March 02 2009 at 7:22pm |
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"The number of high level officials and experts warning that the economic crisis could lead to revolt and revolution world-wide-even in the U.S. -is growing everyday."
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I didn't see the word... depression, anywhere. anyway...that's what the guys at the war college do...they dream up worst case scenarios, otherwise, no one would need to employ them. ahh, they will need us in an economic down turn if the nation runs riot. I hardly think it will happen ... They are now giving out gas cards to people who are looking for work in all the counties around us. I'm going to suggest another job fair so we can get people to work faster when the stimulus money comes into the state.
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Truth
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Of course global poverty is the biggest threat to our national security.
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There is an old axiom believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see. In cases where there are raging debates and opinions, we (our group of researchers) and programmers usually say- look at the numbers.
Of course, reports and statistics can be tweaked, but over all trends as per our research in Chaos Theory can often tell what numbers and media will not. There are some very simple numbers given to me from .gov workers and those who have met with governor's offices and senators, etc. I have remembered them throughout the years, and we have a very unstable global and law enforcement system. In San Jose (Silicon Valley) I first noticed this when working in the jail some things became rather clear. #1 Police officers stopped going to the East Side (Crack house heaven and high crime - Story and King road) alone. #2 When sent to a call where a person was carrying a weapon (even a wooden or plastic gun on occasion where a scared man was shot to death- big enquiry on this one) the policy was shoot to kill and fast after several officers were taken out. Out CTO had a friend on the force and while they were eating dinner in a restaurant some nutcase came in and shot this officer (in uniform) to death because he didn't like cops. Our CTO hit the floor and so did everyone else in the place. The ratio of officers and law enforcement to population is decreasing considerably and President Obama plans to release 100,000 prisoners into the general population out of 150,000. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/comments_blog/2009/02/federal-judges.html?cid=148156581 Here it is quoted 30% - which would reduce it by a lot less. But have heard much higher figures. This is not a win. It is about money. To save money we will release tens of thousands at least, criminals back into society. The judges said these types of measures could save the state more than $900 million a year in prison costs, money that could be used by cities and counties to put those who otherwise would have gone to prison into local jails or treatment programs... "It's a pretty comprehensive victory for us," said Michael Bien, a lawyer in San
Francisco who has fought for mentally ill prisoners. "It was a message -- a very
loud, clear message -- that it's time that the public officials in California
took responsibility for their own criminal justice system." For all those smoking whatever out there- this will come as much anticipated action in view of an administration that is to subtly state it - decreasing the war on illegal due to the fact .. we won't go there. As detailed in this MSNBC piece, late last week AG Holder officially stated that the Drug Enforcement Administration would end federal raids on state-approved medical marijuana dispensaries. This is big news for supporters of medical marijuana, and could be the first step toward a strategic withdrawal from the worst battlefields in the war on drugs. http://sentencing.typepad.com/sentencing_law_and_policy/criminal-justice-in-the-obama-administration/Actually this more a step to decriminalize drug use. It is of course merciful to allow people dying of HIV to spend their last days in an altered state; however it is the trend that is dangerous. Basically, people generally seek a higher high- be it legal or illegal drugs. The problem ESPECIALLY when our country is in a depression or by the classic definition may soon be, who wants to be awake and alert during a period of crisis? Not many. We have pain clinics and doctors whose practices thrive because they are basically pain drug dispensers. The Internet and Canada is flooded with ways to secure drugs for up to $200 a bottle for 'the good ones'. What kind of decisions do people make on drugs and how high in society does drug use go? We definitely won't go there. How many people on the Wall Street trading area or book keepers are zipping along with better living through chemistry? The price of a drugged America, a godless (here come the tomatoes) America, is like watching a movie with your old favorite actors so high they can hardly read the script. Having watched both Jim Morris and Janis Joplin (Jim mostly) pass out on stage - that was the end of the lives of some truly talented people. Basically hard drugs lead to violence. People on enough Cocaine or Crystal Meth score high on the psycho killer percentile. This is from DOJ - only about 23% of crimes we are sure of, that the people are not on drugs. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/dcf/duc.htm Point : The point is in a Depression or Recession the use of drugs, alcohol, and violence is going to go way up. In fact, in the absence of solid currency drugs and alcohol will be used as a trade item and be worth far more than money. How much 'violence' can our legal (not justice) system handle? What is really happening? >end of part 1 Depression Induced Violence < Medclinician |
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Dr.Who
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I could see that some could riot and the economy would be a factor.I would look to placed that have already rioted. I don't expect it here in my neighborhood.
I think it would be more likely we would have a revolt about the governments inept plans to turn us into a socialism as a response to this "crisis." In fact, I would advocate that it is a time for another tea party. |
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The R word is like the D word. It can be euphemistically restated as a need for 'change.' But the realities are that for change to occur there is a need for new blood in congress. The efforts to pass term limit legislation, unlike that which has held up for the presidency for centuries, means we will not see this happen in our life time. Congress is not going to vote itself out of power. There are no longer terms in Congress - there are careers. And once lobbyists and special interests groups lock on, the American people lose their real say at all in the government. The voice of one lobbyist at a luncheon, has the voice of a hundred thousand Americans. The powerful inner circle is not a conspiracy - it is a reality. There are power players, powerful companies, and special interests that run our nation. This is a reality that has existed to an even worse extents in nations around the globe for thousands of years. Even Russian communism was not communism. Why go on about this? Because we are a lot closer to the 'let them eat cake' scenario then we should be. (It was actually let them eat croissants in French- not cake) This is why we go on about this. http://people.boston.com/forums/news/national/general/?p=discussiondetails&activityid=7824816805895207223
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Truth
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Worse of all most of the troops wont be US military but private contractors such as Blackwater. During Katrina those Blackwater guys were all over the place.
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The guys at the War college are officers of the United States Military. They have plenty to do right now.
They need more people to join, they have so much to do, they are not looking for anything else.
The truth is, people are used to gettting whatever they want in this country when they want it.
If the finances continue to go down hill as all the numbers seem to indicate they will, dispite all the programs to bail out, and a majority of people loose their jobs, and food becomes a luxury that most in tent cities do not have. There will be trouble.
Most of the top brass have said that they do not believe based on a opinion poll taken by the military a few years back that the American soldier would fire on American people.
It is hard to say, I think it would depend on the circumstances.
I do know that the USA and Canada have a agreement that in the event of large scale societal problems Canadian troops would come here and American troops would go there to deal with it, so that our own men and women would not be required to fire on our own citizenry.
It was just told that Baxter released live recombined H5N1 mixed with the easily caught human version of Avain flu to be used as a vaccine around the world. This came out of the good old USA. This would have been the end to sixty to eighty percent of mankind.
The author of the artilce I posted in no way believes this was a mistake.
How angry would you be if you lived and the rest of your family died by a hideous virus that your government deliberately sent out?
I am going to personally google every medicine that Baxter makes and never use one of them. If this was a real mistake they are a bunch of incompetent fools, we put people in jail for manslaughter, that is where the top boys from Baxter belong, after we water board them to get them to tell us, who ordered them to do it.
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Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergenciesCanada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each others borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.By Ottawa Citizen
February 22, 2008 excerpt-
"Co-operative militaries on Home Soil!" notes one website. "The next time your town has a 'national emergency,' don't be surprised if Canadian soldiers respond. And remember -Canadian military aren't bound by posse comitatus."
Posse comitatus is a U.S. law that prohibits the use of federal troops from conducting law enforcement duties on domestic soil unless approved by Congress. Scanlon said there was no intent to keep the agreement secret on the Canadian side of the border. He noted it will be reported on in the Canadian Forces newspaper next week and that publication will be put on the Internet. ...........................
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