We need experinced Members on New Site

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abcdefg, I can't speak for the other states, but the Washington state site has Gexydaf and me, who have been around since 2006, plus others. We are posting official sites, interviews, press releases, latest research, etc. I think we are on track. As I understood Albert, these sites were for local (city, county & state) information. Maybe I should read the other states to see what "disinformation" you are referring to.

Perhaps there aren't as many posts on preparedness because so much of it has been covered here at AFT. Please don't badmouth a site that some of us are working very hard to bring local information. D

Point well taken, abcdefg. I will read all of the site. D

abcdefg wrote:   I could not advise anyone to go to that new site at this point with some of the disinformation that is being passed as fact there.   Experinced members need to visit and post and correct some of these things. We need to all keep our heads about us. This site has been too good for too long to let the integrity be compromised in any way.

What is your field of experience and criteria for judging who is an expert and who is not?  Can a laymen with no education and no degrees be extremely knowledgeable in a field? Ask Bill Gates, or any number of highly successful people who never saw the interior of a university. Letters beyond one's name do not denote wisdom, only knowledge, and that one can pass tests and navigate the labyrinth of the educational system which finally gives those letters and titles based on the ability to regurgitate what is taught .

A person can be a laymen and have the observational tools and street or common smarts about life far superior to a PHD in psychology or sociology. It is content, not calligraphy that measure the content of a post. And in terms of providing valuable information and accurate facts, it is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness. Some of the most critical put up the fewest purely simple and informational posts. There is a truly harsh saying which may be found offensive. Those who can- do. Those who cannot try to instruct others how to. Those who cannot do either of the first two, criticize.

Of course there will always be critics and a place in the world for them. Likewise, there will always be those who place more value on grammar and punctuation, than creative and original thought. Those who insist that for a statement to be true, it be backed by three others saying the same thing. How very difficult for those with original thoughts and ideas and concepts. Yet, sadly there are far more watchers than doers, and far more critics than creators.

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What is your field of experience and criteria for judging who is an expert and who is not?Many years memberhip on this forum. As you state one does not need the letters behind ones name to qaulify as experienced. You seem to have taken this personally, I was writting about things that brand new posters with zero experience were saying.

  

 

 Can a laymen with no education and no degrees be extremely knowledgeable in a field?they sure can be my friend that is why we are all here. Although some with titles think they are the first and last word.

 

And in terms of providing valuable information and accurate facts, it is better to light one candle than to curse the darknessIf you start a bonfire where you only need a candle to illuminate you are guilty of overkill. You make statements to me about something I was writting about that you have no clue what I was even refering to.

 

 

Those who cannot try to instruct others how to.Are you talking about your website here or your book??

 

Likewise, there will always be those who place more value on grammar and punctuation, than creative and original thought. I agree with you about grammar but you must admit when some people call themselves researchers they are giving themselves a title and yet they do not even research the dictionary to know how to spell, now how comfortable does that make someone with  the persons research??

 

 

Those who insist that for a statement to be true, it be backed by three others saying the same thing. How very difficult for those with original thoughts and ideas and concepts.I have found that typically the medical profession is guilty of having to have multiple studies done to document outcomes and results, but then again, when it comes to health and life and death issues, one has to judge medical interpretation at a higher level then poetry, I would think.

 

Yet, sadly there are far more watchers than doers, and far more critics than creators. I think in life we need a little of both, the watchers keep the doers  doing good, the critics keep the creators on the right track.

 

This is a wonderful site. It is freely given offered as service to all who find it.  In this day and age this site is the exception not the rule, and I find that refreshing. Albert has worked hard over the years to maintain the integrity of this site. He does not allow fear mongering and outlandish statements tto run rampant. I respect him for that. Every post on the other site by the regulars was a good post in my opinion. I was concerned by some new posters that were making statements that could have pushed other new people reading them over the edge. This one post I am refering to was posted early and I can not even find it now.  The post was making blazen untrue statements and THEY not me were refering to themselves as a expert, which made the statements even more dangerous.  This site has in my mind been about people helping people survive, come what may. All walks of life have added to it in their own unique way. I simply did not want to see that not carry over to the other site. My statement was meant to support this group not insult anyone.  God bless and thanks to all who both inform and who watch. AS med says, we are all needed and often we fluctuate in roles, sometimes reporting, sometimes watching.