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Flumom are you sure you're not trying to scare people off?    Out of all the prepping sites and you post a link to a religious fanatic site?  I don't know about you sometimes Flumom. 
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Hey the Mormons are a little strange but they have been storing food since they arrived in Utah and almost starved over 100 years ago.

They have this storing food down. How do I know because a friend of ours is Mormon and they asked to use our dock at our business to distribute 10,000 5 gallon food buckets to one chuch. Guess what the buckets were unloaded and distributed in one afternoon. Four hours and not one bucket was left. These families store 1 years worth of food and many of them have 5-9 kids.

So no Albert I am not trying to link Heather to a religious fanatic site I am trying to get her to a place that might give her some information.

Check out Johnyray1's post about how much rice and beans to store. People are struggling out there as to how much to store for specific amounts of time.

I always use information of people who have been doing something for much longer than I have and the Mormons are the ones that have been there and continue to do food storage in a huge number and quantity.
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Albert, there used to be alot of info on storage, storage amount calculators, etc. on the provident living lds site. It is not there any more. I got alot of info from there when i was first starting to prep. Too bad they changed it. I don't see alot of useful info on there now.
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For buying canned food with an indefinite shelf life, here is a good place to start. 
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Ok Albert maybe you can answer this question. I purchased some of the meat from MEdepot and why does this can meat last longer than the can chicken or roast beef I purchase from Sams Club?

The cans look the same and the cans I purchase from Sams Club have a two year use by date.

I asked Albert but anyone can answer. Albert just jogged my memory about MEdepot and the can meat I purchased.
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I've personally never purchased anything from MREdepot as of yet, although the folks over there seem like good people.   I believe the difference in shelf life comes down to the cooking process of the meat, and then the timing and temperatures used during the canning process.  The Australian Red Feather cheese and butter apparently holds its' taste indefinitely, and they do in fact attribute that to their unique canning process.   The canned meat you buy anywhere else will be safe to eat after it expires, but it will lose a lot of its flavor and appearance over time.   There are companies that specialize in preserving the taste. 
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That lds mormon website is selling 6 cans of canned white rice for $30.00 with shipping.  Now, why anyone would want "canned" rice, I have no idea.   Since you can also buy 50lb bags of rice and beans at Costco for only $5.00, it seems like just another typical way for the church to try and raise money.    Canned wheat?  Confused
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I was fixing my boys flat tire today and realized that I will need another method of transportation when/if gas stations closed or gas becomes sparse.  We each have a bicyle but not extra tubing, nor do I have a hand pump to air tires.  So my next investment is to get extra tires, patches and a hand pump.  We also have a kiddy cart that can attach to a bike so this will be great if we have to transport supplies.

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Great idea Tadeo. I am going to check my supplies on the bikes too. I have been looking for a cart for the garden it can double for this also so I will now look with this in mind.

Great ideas people I just love AFT!
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 hello everyone since joining in 2006 i have  started buying everything we eat by the case and keep it rotated we have at least 3 case of everything we eat  my small pantry is no for things we use every now and then it can be a hassle sometimes but i have found that by doing this we use are preps and keep it rotated so we only prep what we eat it has taken a while but min stock of any one thing is three case i keep an eye on the meats in cans that is hardest item we have in preps to keep up with
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Albert I can tell you why they use canned wheat and rice. These people relly keep lots of food for a very long time for very large families.

Therefore, they keep everything in cans and even have shelving designed specially for these cans. It is amazing!

The Mormons symbol is a bee hive and they are organized as such and keep their food just like bees do in case times get bad.

Mormon beliefs are a little different but so are the Catholics and I was raised as a Catholic. We could all learn from these people they know how to prep.
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I just ordered two 35gm of Celox Hemostat.  This past two weeks one of my boys has had two play accidents, with one requiring a trip to the hospital.  Both accidents were some nasty cuts.  I know the military uses this stuff for minor to severe cuts, punctures, etc.  Anyhow, I figured this will be good stuff to have around the house in case of an emergency of if the shtf and treatment is not immediately available.  The cheapest place I found was this:  http://www.rescue-essentials.com/servlet/Categories?category=CELOX 
 
Also check their free items section.
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Thanks for the heads up I will be buying a couple of these too. I have a child and they can get hurt real fast.

I have worried about bleeding and this seems to fill the bill.
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Hi all,
 
- basic grains/beans/dehydrated fruit/veggies - one year's worth.  Other canned/comfort foods.  Beef jerky, nuts, coffee, chocolate, even hard candy for the kids.  Alfalfa seeds
 
- for furry family members - dog&cat food, kitty litter,
 
- heirloom seeds.
 
- water: 55 gallon water barrel .  2 others already used to catch rainwater
 
- for personal safety - gloves, goggles, n95 masks, rubber boots.
 
- for cooking: grinder, coffee press, weber grill (for wood cooking), camp stove for propane cooking, water purifcation tablets, huge water filter,  
 
- paper plates/bowls, disposable cups, forks, spoons, knives - my thinking is early on when we are not sure who is infected, we don't want to share utensils.  I don't trust myself to sanitize them well enough.
 
- bleach, bleach and more bleach, vinegar, ammonia, baking soda (you can clean almost anything with these things)
 
- medical kit - basic stuff thats in all kits, plus betadyne, peroxide, immodium, pepto bismol, benedryl, temporary cavity filler. 
 
- God forbid, but if  I ever have to set up a "sick room/quarantine" room, I have plastic sheeting, duct tape, disposable surgial gowns, gloves, masks, caps, stethoscope, bp monitor (we already had these),  rubber boots, small trash pails & liners, bed pan, disinfecting basins, disposable bed pads, lysol & bleach, CPAP machine (already have), separate thermometer, toiletries, medications, etc for sick patient. CPR manual, other bird flu manual I've found online.   Very clear treatment/disinfectant instructions.
 
- If I set up a sick room, I will set up a safe room for non sick family members, using the same ideas of plastic sheeting and duct tape, plus a positive air pressure blower, and stock that room with 2 weeks supplies.  This will put several barriers between the sick and well.
 
- medications:  multivitamins, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Lipitor. 
 
- for power failures: hand crank radio, hand crank flashlights, solar power battery charger (charges laptop, cell phones)  Reusable batteries and charger.  Candles
 
- misc:  installed outdoor clothes line, zero degree sleeping bags, air mattress
 
Need to get: Tamiflu, antibiotics, epipen, gun/ammo, plywood for boarding windows?, alarm system, chainsaw or cross-cut saw (for firewood),
 
I have more stuff related to camping - in case we have to bug out in our camper.  A lot of the above plus book on foraging, wildlife first aid, bear repellant, snake bite kit, etc.
 
Need to get more of the following: toilet paper, papertowels, napkins.  Toiletries, razors, feminine items.
 
- back up "cheapie" prescription glasses (zennioptical)
 
This is all I can think of at the moment. 
 
Organizing it all is a different matter.  I have several months food on hand, the rest will be hidden.  I have a bin just for the sick room and adjoining disinfecting room, bags of goggles/masks/gloves in each car, first aid and bug out bucket in a location quick to get to.  I keep trying to figure out what goes where, because so many things will need to be divided and go in different locations - i.e., the sick room will be stocked with vitamins as will the safe room.
 
I have a "plan that I will type up and instructions on where things are and steps to take if there is an imminent threat.  Stress and lack of sleep can make a person foggy and forget what to do.
 
It may be overkill, but I am taking this threat very seriously. 
 
 
 
 
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Oh yeah, I just added superglue to my medical kit - lots of people swear by it instead of stitches...
 
 
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Hi fab4! I can tell you that my husband had a knee replacement last year and they glued the skin over his knee. No stiches or staples and at this time 1 year later you almost cannot see he even had an operation.

I am just not sure if the Dr's use the superglue we get at the grocery store or if there is a special superglue for surgery??

Anyone out there know the answer to this question.
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Just added Apple cider vinegar. Many medical uses:

http://vinegar.faithweb.com/about.html
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Just got my two 35g packets of Celox in the mail this morning.  The packets are huge, so if anyone buys any may want to get the smaller 15g packets.  It says on the packet that once you open and use you have to throw away the remaining contents.  I told my wife that I pray that I may never open these.
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Originally posted by Tadeo Tadeo wrote:

Just got my two 35g packets of Celox in the mail this morning.  The packets are huge, so if anyone buys any may want to get the smaller 15g packets.  It says on the packet that once you open and use you have to throw away the remaining contents.  I told my wife that I pray that I may never open these.


Thank you for the information. I have been looking at other products like Cleox and have discovered that Celox is the BEST. I will purchase the 15g packets. Where did you purchase yours from?

I also found out that Dermabond is the glue that can be used to "stich" the skin together. I would not suggest that people use superglue that you get at the store. Dermabond is not cheap but it is specific to skin use.

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FluMom, I searched around and found that this place was the cheapest:  http://www.rescue-essentials.com/servlet/Categories?category=CELOX

I recieved my order within two days of buying.  I went to their web site and got their  800 number and ordered over the phone.  The company is located in Colorado somewhere.  Also, if you get some don't forget to ask for the FREE  4" scissors.  These are the medical kind that cuts through anything. 
 
Shipping is a flat rate of $4.95
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Actually I was wrong about that price.  www.beyondbulbs.com was the cheapest at $13.95 for the 15g packets.  For the 35g size packets then www.rescue-essentials.com will be the cheapest.  I think beyondbulbs has a higher shipping rate whereas rescue was a flat $4.95 plus you get the free scissors.
 
I keep on updating here.  Anyways, beyond bulbs shipping for the 15g is $8.95.  Definetely go with rescue essentials.
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Originally posted by Tadeo Tadeo wrote:

Actually I was wrong about that price.  www.beyondbulbs.com was the cheapest at $13.95 for the 15g packets.  For the 35g size packets then www.rescue-essentials.com will be the cheapest.  I think beyondbulbs has a higher shipping rate whereas rescue was a flat $4.95 plus you get the free scissors.
 

I keep on updating here.  Anyways, beyond bulbs shipping for the 15g is $8.95.  Definetely go with rescue essentials.


Thank you Tadeo! You did find the cheapest 15g pkts, I saw one at 22.00. I will purchase from rescue - essentials.

I found the skin glue it is called Dermabond not cheap 28.00 for one application but if you need it it is better and easier than having to do stiches. It is only good on straight cuts no ragged cuts so I'm not sure what I want to do yet.

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$28.00 bucks, YIKES!  I wonder why one just can't use regular super glue for this?  I also looked into getting a stitch kit but I would probably sew myself to someone.  I'll look into this Dermabond.
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I haven't been able to find tons of info, the ingredients are very close.  Dermabond is supposed to stay on longer, doesn't sting, and is sterile.  What about the OTC Liquid Bandage?  I haven't tried it - any opinions on that?
 
I read this is supposed to be for smaller cuts - not recommended for gaping or jagged wounds.   Wound needs to be cleaned first, the edges pulled together then the glue applied.
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Hi fab4! I can tell you that my husband had a knee replacement last year and they glued the skin over his knee. No stiches or staples and at this time 1 year later you almost cannot see he even had an operation.

I am just not sure if the Dr's use the superglue we get at the grocery store or if there is a special superglue for surgery??

Anyone out there know the answer to this question.


I found the answer to my own question: Dermabond is what the Drs use.

It is not cheap 28.00 per use and it must be a straight cut no jagged edge cuts.

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Ok I'm sick guys I answered my question twice. I need to sleep!
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For those people who have suture packs, do you know how to use them? if not now is the time to sacrifice a couple of packs and practice on some raw meat, [the sunday pork roast or chicken are perhaps the best], slice into it then stitch it, now remove the stitches [cut the thread close to the skin and then pull through the otherside, you dont want a lot of thread going under the skin when removing them, think introducing infection. [will try and find some picture diagrams on how to do all these and then post them]
 
Once you feel confident that you can suture the meat it is time to apply oil to the surface and your hands, Why? to simulate blood; now practice some more, not easy is it.
 
Ok now you are perfect at this, what happens if you are the one who is injured, who is going to stitch you up, make sure other people know how to use the medical kits as well.
 
If you have younger children in your group add a picture first aid book, yes they are basic but they may help your 8-12 year old save someones life. If there are first aid courses available in your area why not enrole the family, this is one prep that could save a family members life in an emergency.
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Speaking of sutures - when my son got them, they used some cream to numb the area topically - does anyone know what that cream is?
 
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I'm still stocking masks when I find them at the outlet store I shop.Have over 200 hundred now.I got  17 boxes of 3M 8511 N95  10 to a box for 5.99 a box they sell on line for  around $18. a box.I was really happy.Of course the girls that work there wanted to know why buy so many the truth my husband has copd and works around chemicals.I don't tell them the whole true or all the good bargains I get for prepping there would be in their carts not mine.Survival.
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Why is that?  If I buy a large amount of something I always get some cashier asking what it is for.  Like, what the fudge is it their business what you are buying something for.  Cashier's need to mind their own business or lose mine.

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Starspirit, what kind of out let store has masks, if you don't mind me asking...I've paid full price for mine and I need to get some more.
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Another prep I just remembered that will come in handy for many reasons...large rolls of plastic sheeting. I bought 6 - 100 ft rolls. A few possible uses I see are extending gardening season by making a makeshift greenhouse or just frost protection, insulating windows from drafts, and rain collection. It's cheap at Menards, and relatively small to store.
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The Bargain Factory its a close out,damage freight from insurance companies,job lots,unclaimed freight that sort of stuff ..This one is very clean not trashy.They have houseware items,food,over counter meds,books,toys,lawn and garden.It always changes so I go often..They have helped my preps alot.Been going there for 3years .Sorta like Big Lots but much much better, its smaller but great bargains.Got blue 7 gal water jugs for 6.99.Its a great place.They have 4 stores in the KC metro  area.Look in yellow pages in your area for freight damaged store go check them out.Hopefully you'll find one that works for you.
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Originally posted by hachiban08 hachiban08 wrote:

I probably have the smallest list ever=[
I have been trying to do my preps for a while but i dont get to buy stuff very much becauase most of the $$ goes to bilss in my family and stuff, im only 17 ...
but i do have 30 cans of beans, 10 pounds of rice, the typical 5 lbs of sugar, 200 packets of green tea, like 3 or 4 survival food meals(camping and whatnot....)i also have, those on the go packets, about 4 boxes, i have 1 box of breakfast drinks,that'sabout it for now in the food dept......but in other things, i have an emergency radio from radio shack, 12 rolls of toilet paper off to the side...a huge bottle of hand sanitizer to save water, which i need^_^;
oh!!!! i have a question, how much water per person per day? i would like to know that. everytime i go to costco, people are always buying in bulk and fighting over stuffi n the aisles. its scaryand i walk past them, and they be saying, its for my emergency kit!! i need it!! i saw one person wheel out 12 cases of 24 pack water...it was scary O_O
Hachiban08, it sounds like you have a great start on your preps! congratulations on a well rounded collection, you'll be surprised how quickly  a couple of cans a week add up.
 
Save your containers that juice comes in, rinse well and refill for your stored water. Have two gallons per day per person. There are blue fifty gallon barrels at Sams. Each barrel would give a person one months supply of emergency water filled from your tap. Just rotate ever six months. You go girl-good job.Clap
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Originally posted by SusanT SusanT wrote:

Another prep I just remembered that will come in handy for many reasons...large rolls of plastic sheeting. I bought 6 - 100 ft rolls. A few possible uses I see are extending gardening season by making a makeshift greenhouse or just frost protection, insulating windows from drafts, and rain collection. It's cheap at Menards, and relatively small to store.
 
We must be on the same wavelength - I just bought some plastic sheeting and a couple of big rolls of duct tape. I figured there has to be a million uses for it, and it'll probably hard to get in a pandemic.
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hello all,
I've gotta say, this is much more than I have ever thought about.
It amazes me how thorough you are. Very impressive.
You gave me alot to think about as far as my prepardness goes ...
Thanks Smile
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It can be overwhelming at first. There is so much information on this site, if you are just starting out. Just start with the basics - a clean water source, food, heat, and self protection.   If you have any questions, people here are always willing to help. Welcome to AFT!
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It gets easier, believe me. At first I think everyone finds it overwhelming, but if you follow SusanT's advice and work on the basics it makes it a little easier. You'll probably find yourself looking at everything from a prepping point of view - I know I do when I shop these days. Feel free to ask questions - I think most people are here to help.
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Dont forget to look around at what you may already have that may have another use...such as shelving...tools etc....When I look at some of the list I realize that I have alot of this stuff..and the stuff I dont have I get a little at a time.
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I make lists and then as I purchase I cross off the stuff. The lists keep getting smaller and smaller.

I also purchase 1-3 items when I go to Sam's or Costco like TP, paper bowls, plates, kleenex, Paper towels ect...

It is all one step at a time.

I cross them off my list and it is one less thing for me to get.
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A thought to other 50+year olds.....especially those with sedentary jobs like me.  We are going to be much more physically active than we are now.  So I have added epsom salt for aches and sprains, stick on heat patches, hot water bottle, wrist, knee, ankle and back supports.
 
I was fortunate enough to be able to purchase a 15 acre property with well, trailer, 3 car garage and large storage building*.  So I have added gardening tools, seeds, books/articles on gardening, hunting/trapping, bartering.  Also more woodworking tools Smile, lumber, nails, woodstove, axe, pullimhecomes shoveimhegoes, chainsaw (bar oil and 2cycle oil)
 
Lots of extra prepping, but finally have room for my preps, and room for more preps than my cellar can accomodate, and I can get to my washer and dryer LOL now.
 
*from Housing and Urban Development.....google HUD, click on buy house, select state, pick county list and search.  If you find something rural, plug address into official county real estate web site and you will find all the information on the property you need.  Prices can be VERY reasonable.
 
 
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Abeamreach, how exciting for you!  When did you get settled on the new property?  Were you able to start a garden this year?
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Dang, abeamreach...if you are a man and not married I might try and find you...LOL! Do you live in Colorado??? It is hard to find other people who prep most would think we are all crazy.

I have been lazy in prepping and keeping track of things been busy with major surgery but after December I am going to hunker down and get organized.

I am going to get in whole grain wheat in #10 cans and a hand/electic grinder. I believe we are going to have food shortages in the not to distant future and wheat will be very needed.

We are going to have something happen just not sure if in my lifetime or my kid's. If I am alive in 10 and 20 years I will re-stock all my longterm as needed. My teen knowsI am prepping nut but smart enough to understand it could save his life some day.

Guess, I am a life long prepper!
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Couple hints, you may not drink coffee, drink alchohol, smoke cigarettes but these items become money to use to barter for needed items as time goes on and the ability to obtain tuna is almost non existant for example.
 
Alchohol can also be used to clean a wound, anesthtesia if need be, it will excelerate a fire. Salt is also a good barter item.
 
Someone said canning was not needed bc you can buy canned items, true however when you run out of the canned items, you will need to have a way to preserve the apples or dandilions etc so buy the jars and rings and a cheap how to book.
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