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    Posted: February 14 2007 at 10:02pm
I'm new at this -signed up yesterday- but, been coming to this site for a couple months. I have been prepping since. I started off already having guns, generators etc.. I live on the edge of a small town on a couple of acres. Have a water well, septic system garden and more. My problem is, if it gets as bad as some of you think and I have to protect my property from the looters. If  I have to shoot someone, what do you do with the body? Just let it lay there and rot. Will they haul me off to jail? I would not want to have contact with anyone for fear of catching BF. It seems like protecting yourself and property will put you in jeopardy. I hope you don't think this a joke. Have you thought about this?
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if you shoot someone - there will be no law

nobody will say anything if you protect your family from looters - your preps are your life and by taking your food they are killing you

If you shoot someone - dont go near the body it could be infected with H5N1.

if you have to for health reasons throw wood on it and burn it but be masked and wash up afterwards

There will be no law - Katrina taught us that and this will be like a million Katrinas

chances are the police will be dead or sick or deserted and you will be on your own.

if you dont tell people you have preps they will not come so say nothing

barricade your place so they will make a noise when they come to warn you

you can lasso a foot from a distance and drag the body away but DONT TOUCH IT

cut the rope rather than touch the body




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I live in Georgia. For years it seemed that only the criminals had rights. Last summer the state finally made it legal to defend your family and yourself. It's called the Castle Law. If I am anywhere in the state and I am there legally, I have the right to defend myself and my family. A few people thought this law would turn Georgia into the wild west. Nothing has changed Please dont get me wrong. I will call 911 as long as I get an answer. When I call 911 and get no answer or the whole system is down,
I will be on my own.
 
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don't know if things would get that bad. Pray they don't ... but I must say Hurrah  for  Ga.   Question?  Why do the T V stations in D>C> keep lieing?  Each night they say two or three people shot there.  Can"t be.  Everyone knows its against the law to own a gun in Wash.
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In Katrina, Law enforcement were part of the problem...They couldn't believe that people were so prepared.  They believe the people that had so much food gas and supplies must have stolen it from others. 
 
Another problem was: That one family would not leave there dogs so an officer pointed a gun at the dogs and said we can take care of that.  The owner pointed his gun at the officer and said you'll be next.  The officer left.
 
The people in Katrina only had to show the weapons or fire warning shots and the thieves left.  Even a guy trying to steal a generator left quite quickly when the owner said that it would not be good for your health to steal from me.  This was said with a gun in his hand.  They never came back
 
So hears my suggestion. 
 
 Call 911 first always.  They may come but I doubt it, but you can prove your called for help and tell them someone is trying to kill me...  In order to shoot someone, you have to say and or believe that your life is endangered.  Thats the law...You can not shoot someone in some states to defend property. 
 
 Keep your receipts of all your food you buy  in case it comes down to proving it's yours.  I keep mine in a file cabinet.
 
 
I believe if you have to defend yourself show the gun...Fire a warning shot and If you have to, shoot to kill.   Dead men tell no tails.  My step father God rest his sole, Said.  If you make the decision to shoot someone be sure you shoot to kill.  Then its your word against a dead man.  Who are they going to believe. 
 
 
I do like the post someone hear made.  They were going to dig grave sites in front of the yard for every one to see.   One of the site is not filled in. 
 
 A sign say Who's next. 
 
I don't know about you but that would stop me from entering the yard.
 
 
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Snuffie, I love it!!!
Tigger, I'm glad to hear it. MO is working on a castle law this year. I've already contacted my elected reps. on it and other pro citizen laws.

Krys, you question is not simple. A lot depends on the situation and where you live. In a lot of places in this country if you defend yourself, you are considered guilty till proven innocent. So for temporary disruptions, use the same guidelines that you would normally use, for both your use of force, and the "disposal". If you are in a total society melt down, follow Kilts instruction.

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How would I find out if NC has the Castle law? That sounds good, and a lot of good posts, everyone.

I personally don't think I'd get out there and move a body I've shot, but I don't know what I'll be like when that happens. In that book by John Barry, he said something I didn't know about... in the World War, the "dead man's land" they left the bodies and the rats came in by the thousands and ate the corpses. That totally grossed me out!
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Keep in mind that in the Katrina aftermath the local police went around and confiscated peoples guns and left them unable to protect their homes. It was one of the worst cases of the govt ignoring the peoples rights I have seen. The police were taking their friends protection from them under orders. Couldn't they ignore the orders? Would they shoot themselves if their commander told them to? I was shocked and disgusted when I saw the video of it happening.
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The castle is something new that started in Fla. about a year ago. I would contact my elected reps. and ask. If they say no, then ask him / her to sponsor one.

Here in the country I call it recycling. Whenever there is a "downer", (a cow or a horse dies), the rancher just drags it a "back pasture" and other critters eat it. It doesn't take long.

You really don't want a dead body close to your house. The smell aside, very germ laden. If the authorities are out of the picture, it will go with the rest of the downers.

You want to be grossed out. Look up what the ancient romans did to a roman citizen that was convicted of murder.
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Abby,

 
These are the states that I have so far. Alaska, Alabama,Arizona,Florida,Georgia,Idaho,Inidana,Kansas,Kentucky,Louisiana,Michigan,
Mississippi,Oklahoma,South Carolina,South Dakota,
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Originally posted by 7laws 7laws wrote:

Keep in mind that in the Katrina aftermath the local police went around and confiscated peoples guns and left them unable to protect their homes. It was one of the worst cases of the govt ignoring the peoples rights I have seen. The police were taking their friends protection from them under orders. Couldn't they ignore the orders? Would they shoot themselves if their commander told them to? I was shocked and disgusted when I saw the video of it happening.


May they should have. But the politicians should not have giver the order in the first place. Yet these same politicians were reelected. Why? Mostly because of their race. It is a prime example of the hypocrisy of gun control. They didn't confiscate the guns from the criminals. They took them from the middle class registered gun owners.

Another law my state and others have passed prevents the government from doing that.   
    
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Originally posted by In that book by John Barry, he said something I didn't know about... in the World War, the dead man's land they left the bodies and the rats came in by the thousands and ate the corpses. [/QUOTE In that book by John Barry, he said something I didn't know about... in the World War, the dead man's land they left the bodies and the rats came in by the thousands and ate the corpses. [/QUOTE wrote:

 
I could have lived my whole life with out knowing that.   Yuck...Gross 
 
I could have lived my whole life with out knowing that.   Yuck...Gross 
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to dispose of a body

1 lasso a foot with a rope - dont go near it because it may be infected

2 drag it away where nobody can see anything - at night

3 cover it with branches and wood to hide the corpse

4 come back 3am when everyone is asleep and burn it.

remember to mask up and wash up afterwards - it could be infected.


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Great info on this subject. thank you
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I live in Colorado, we have the ( make my day ) law here. It say something like, if there is ssome one breaking into your house you can use deadly force. HOWEVER !!! you have to use that force while there in YOUR HOUSE , and make shure you tell the Police you were afraid for you LIFE, you cant chase the guy down the street shooting at them. (unless you like spending time in the big house).    sad but true. and you cant use deadly force if there breaking into your car. The Police officer sayed at our CERT class you cant use deadly force to protect your property.
    
    
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Rockhound, I think that's how it used to be where I grew up. My Uncle Wayne was visiting once, and my grandmother was telling him about a prowler that one of my other Uncles was worried about... his advice was wait for the person, shoot them, then throw them in the house and THEN call the police. He was adamant that would "Take care of any varmets" nosing around and keep us "on the right side of the law."
Turned out the prowler was my cousin Phillip, who was stealing liquor from my Grandfather's stash in the shed!
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rockhound, When I lived in littleton ( for 25 yrs) I was always told to drag them in to your house if you shot them. Just make sure you don't get any blood on the floor when you do this. If bird flu does break out everyone will be in the same boat. Like someone else said if they ARE DEAD IT IS YOUR WORD AGAINST THERE'S.
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I am in Georgia. Our law is fairly simple. If I am in Georgia and am legally where I am, I can pretty much shoot to kill. It is called the castle law. That is the way it should be.
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Thanks for all your advice on my question "what to do?"
I live in Northern Ca. So I think I'll have to drag them in, Or away.
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Krys, most states self defense law allow the exercise of deadly force if, "you are in fear of great bodily harm or death". However once you exercise deadly force the burden of proof will be on you!

Remember to check your states law, you live in Commieforina.    
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I just finished the paperback "Alas Babylon" that was suggested on this site a while back. It is an excellent book, very dated (1959) but really relates to what we are talking about and it puts you in the situation with this very thing going on. It shows what one group of people did to survive looters, starvation, illness, etc. I highly recommend it.
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