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Posted: November 10 2006 at 3:40pm |
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If the migration for fall started where are the most of them now. It just occured to me that the birds from the
Eastern Flyway should be here already or soon. Does any Goverment agency keep track of the numbers of birds and track them. |
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This is documented human cases on the map. Different H5N1 strains on map , see USA ...............?
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This one has times etc http://nuthatch.birdnature.com/timetable.html
You will have to visit their site to use their tools to see when your area is affected , it will not post well .
The Spring and Fall Migration Timetable information was compiled using information from books and magazines, (see Bibliography), America Online's Birding forums, searches on the DejaNews site and many hours at the local public libraries. Alot of time and energy has been put into this Timetable and therefore, I ask that the information not be taken from this site and displayed on another site. If anyone wants this information for another web site, please provide a link to http://www.birdnature.com/timetable.html. Thank you. How the Timetable Works: This timetable is only for the Eastern US states of Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Maryland, Maine, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin.
Arrival Date is an approximation date of when the migrating bird can first be seen while the Departure Date is an approximation of the latest date the bird can be seen. Some departure dates are missing on the Timetables, because the migratory bird may be a "Summer Resident" or a "Winter Resident". A good field guide will help in determining resident birds and migratory birds that are resident throughout a period of time. Even though most cities in a given state are not listed, when birds migrate there can be a radius of up to 100 miles or more. Keep an eye on local weather conditions which can influence the arrival and departure dates of birds. Keeping a personal record and checking your dates with other bird observers around your area is a better guide. If you find an error or would like to contribute your list of migratory dates, please send mail to birdnature@birdnature.com and I will include your name/homepage as a contributor. Other Sites with Migration Dates: The Mississippi Coast Bird Migration Site studies the annual timing of bird movements through three coastal counties, Hancock, Harrison and Jackson, in Mississippi. This site contains "arrival" and "departure" information of all birds which do not spend the entire year in this area. Arrival and Departure Dates of Atlanta Area Birds lists the arrival/departure dates and abundance of each spieces. |
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I live on the Atlantic flyway in Long Island and just this past week have seen the migrants arrive. We have many waterbirds, grebes, mergansers, ducks, etc. that spend summers in northern Canada and that come here for the winter. They are just getting here, I saw a grebe swimming near my house the other day, and buffleheads on a local pond.
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Buffleheads are in PA too, along with a couple of ducks I have not been able to identify. Unusual... I have seen a single duck swimming around while osprey and bald eagles constantly prey on smaller birds.
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Candles.. you posted the best map, many I see do not show the migration path up the east coast ... I am on the look out for Canadian geese.. to be going south.
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speaking of maps..
What must this look like 2 years later....now in 2006
This is a 2004 Map....
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The months of October...November...Dec.? and....January
do not look very good for humans... what will it be like this winter over there...2 years later?
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Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza H5N1, Thailand, 2004High numbers of HPAI detections coincided with low temperatures in Thailand from October to February, when wild birds from central and northern Asia migrate into Thailand (7).
Therefore, seasonal conditions and bird migration might have contributed to the introduction of HPAI virus. Furthermore, the lower temperature supports survival of the virus in the environment and facilitates transmission (33).
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Bird flu not a threat to waterfowl hunters, expert says
The Clarion-Ledger
North American waterfowl hunters are not at risk of encountering the deadly form of H5N1 bird flu this winter, according to one of the world's leading experts on the disease.
Dr. Robert Webster of the St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis told officials from Ducks Unlimited and the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service Friday that the deadly flu has not been found on this continent. "There are no additional risks this year involved with hunting," Dr. Webster was quoted in a release from Ducks Unlimited's national office in Memphis. "Hunters should simply be aware that something is going on in other parts of the world, and stay informed. "There is none of this virus in this part of the world." he said. "Without the virus in this hemisphere, standard practice of good hygiene is all you need to do." U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service Director Dale Hall provided an update on its monitoring efforts regarding the virus.The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service oversees migratory bird laws, and sets the season framework for waterfowl hunting seasons in the U.S. "We've sampled almost 15,000 birds, and through the remainder of the hunting season we will continue those efforts," Hall said. "We expect to sample between 50,000 and 70,000 birds. So far, we have found no highly pathogenic H5N1 virus." Hall says some low pathogenic H5N1 flu has shown up, but that is normal. Dr. Webster agreed, saying that the low pathogenic H5N1 strain is not uncommon in waterfowl, and does not cause illness in humans. "People have got to understand that it's out there, and will likely show up throughout the season," he said. "The public should not be worried when that happens. "At this time, I see no risk to hunters at all," Dr. Webster added. According to Dr. Webster, surveying and sampling for avian influenza has never been done so extensively as it is now. "These guys (FWS and DU) are doing what they need to do," Dr. Webster said. "So I'd tell hunters to continue to do what you do, but stay informed. After you hunt, follow standard hygiene practices." |
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Our Hunters are open to many diseases.... no worries...be careful... control what bites you...
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Posted earlier by GUEST? will the real GUEST please stand up?
Topic: Avian in US hunters A/H11N9
Posted: 22 July 2006 at 6:08pm Prerelease publication of Avian H11N9 in U.S.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol12no08/06-0492.htm
Volume 12, Number 8–August 2006 --- Ahead of print ! Quote: ..........................................................................................................
Tick-transmitted diseases of humans. Babesiosis Colorado tick fever Ehrlichiosis (HME & HGE) Relapsing fever Rocky Mountain spotted fever Tularemia Lyme disease ..................................................................................
Let's pick one...
Francisella tularensis is one of the most infective bacteria known; fewer than ten organisms can cause disease leading to severe illness. Humans are most often infected by tick bite or through handling an infected animal. Ingesting infected water, soil, or food can also cause infection. Tularemia can be acquired by inhalation; hunters are at a higher risk for this disease because of the potential of inhaling the bacteria during the skinning process. Tularemia is not spread directly from person to person.
Francisella tularensis is an intracellular bacterium, meaning that it is able to live as a parasite within host cells. It primarily infects macrophages, a type of white blood cell. It is thus able to evade the immune system. The course of disease involves spread of the organism to multiple organ systems, including the lungs, liver, spleen, and lymphatic system. The course of disease is similar regardless of the route of exposure. Mortality in untreated (pre-antibiotic-era) patients has been as high as 50% in the pneumoniac and typhoidal forms of the disease, which however account for <10% of cases. Overall mortality was 7% for untreated cases, and the disease responds well to antibiotics with a fatality rate of about 2%. The exact cause of death is unclear, but it is thought be a combination of multiple organ system failures. ................................................................................................
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The risk of catching Avian Influenza from a wild bird is so remote as to be not worth considering. The disease will almost certainly be spread by a H2H infected person arriving by aircraft fron a country where they live intimately (usually under the same roof) with their birds.
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I dont fully agree I live in a city where bird dropping are everywhere and where you cant avoid them. Inside subways and walking under bridges and under some buildings. This is assuming that the virus can be spread from bird droppings.
Birds returning will bring back the virus , plus there is the real immediate threat of the loss of birds to the virus and their effect on crops. The birds kill the bugs that kill our crops . ?Even a ten percent death rate of birds would effect the farming industry. To simply worry about the virus in only terms of a pandemic is really niave. To me the media letting people down . I am prepping for the loss and high cost of produce next year. Not simply the virus becoming a pandemic. |
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You are right Linda Ann... They have now found H5N1 in Non-migratory birds over there... I imagine you can get influenza's from bird droppings that are not H5N1....
I was going to post this under...
What We Already Know....
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Lovely to Note:
........................... Banbura, M.W., Y. Kawaoka, T.L. Thomas, and R.G. Webster (1991). Reassortants with equine 1 (H7N7) influenza virus hemagglutinin in an avian influenza virus genetic background are pathogenic in chickens. Virology 184(1): 469-471. ISSN: 0042-6822. NAL Call Number: 448.8 V81 Abstract: Reassortants possessing the hemagglutinin (HA) gene from A/Equine/London/1416/73 (H7N7) [Eq/Lond) and five or more genes from A/Chicken/Pennsylvania/1370/83 (H5N2) [Ck/Penn] were lethal in chickens.
This result demonstrates that horses can maintain influenza viruses whose HAs are capable of promoting virulence.
Thus, reassortment of equine and avian influenza virus genes could generate viruses that might be lethal in domestic poultry.
(and Humans, See Below)
Descriptors: fowls, horses, avian influenza virus, equine influenza virus, hemagglutinins, genes, amino acids, virulence, pathogenicity, mortality, molecular sequence data, EMBL m58657, GENBANK m58657.
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http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/h7n7-netherlands.htm Excerpts....
Human Cases of H7N7 Infection in The Netherlands As of April 25, 2003, the National Influenza Center in The Netherlands reported that 83 confirmed cases of human H7N7 influenza virus infections had occurred among poultry workers and their families since the H7N7 outbreak began in chickens at the end of February 2003.
The vast majority (79) of these people had conjunctivitis, and 6 of those with conjunctivitis also reported influenza-like illness (ILI) symptoms (e.g., fever, cough, muscle aches). One person had ILI only (no conjunctivitis) and 2 persons had mild illness that could not be classified as ILI or conjunctivitis.
In addition, one individual, a 57-year-old veterinarian who visited one of the affected farms in early April, died on April 17 of acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) and related complications from H7N7 infection. Dutch authorities have reported evidence of possible transmission of H7N7 influenza from 2 poultry workers to 3 family members. All 3 family members had conjunctivitis and one also had ILI.
Influenza in the United States The current vaccine does not protect against infection with the influenza A (H7N7) virus.
U.S. residents who are traveling outside the United States should consult their physician for advice about whether they should be vaccinated against influenza and about the use of influenza antiviral medications.
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Wild Birds Tested For Avian FluBiologists Gather In Yolo County
POSTED: 12:20 pm PST November 16, 2006
UPDATED: 3:10 pm PST November 16, 2006
WEST SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- State and federal biologists gathered in Yolo County on Thursday to catch and test wild birds for avian flu.
The Sacramento Valley is the temporary home for millions of migratory birds. The birds come down from Alaska, and biologists said the concern is that those birds might mix with others from Asia that have the disease.
"It could have an impact on California. We have a vibrant agriculture and poultry industry. It also can be a public health threat. It's one of the things we're testing for, but it's not in North America at this time," said Steve Edinger of the state Department of Fish and Game.
So far, about 100,000 birds have been tested in the U.S., including about 10,000 in California.
Avian flu is a concern worldwide.
Federal agencies are coordinating findings with agencies in Canada, Mexico, Russia, Japan and China.
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Thanks to all for your great research - the maps and charts are really interesting. We have quite alot of birds flying through in groups right now as well. If this thing keeps circulating every winter, it seems unlikely that it would just die out on its own. I'm wondering whether birds will eventually develop immunity to a less virulent strain, which would also give immunity to this one. Since they feel that a pandemic would most likely be less lethal, why doesn't it seem to be the case in birds?
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Just thinking out loud here...
We have never before followed all wild bird populations so closely..many do die. There is HPAI and LPAI... the problem seems to be when this disease gets into the water fish etc. and into nonmigratory birds. The wild birds do seem better at coping with it...as far as we can tell. It's when it gets into local populations that humans are in contact with... that we really notice it. We are ill or die. It (the varius avian flu's) is so widespread now, that is the worry. It isn't to focus on... the fact that only a handful of poeple have died... the absolute fear is in how it is permeating everything like a mixing bowl...everything starts to look the same....symptom wise.
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Just thinking out loud here...
We have never before followed all wild bird populations so closely..many do die. There is HPAI and LPAI... the problem seems to be when this disease gets into the water fish etc. and into nonmigratory birds. The wild birds do seem better at coping with it...as far as we can tell. It's when it gets into local populations that humans are in contact with... that we really notice it. We are ill or die. It (the varius avian flu's) is so widespread now, that is the worry. It isn't to focus on... the fact that only a handful of poeple have died... the absolute fear is in how it is permeating everything like a mixing bowl...everything starts to look the same....symptom wise. [/QUOTE] Was wondering when we would see articles about shoooing the feathered ones away , other than HPA1 and LPA1 , and all the other bugs and lugs , droppings blowing with the breeze , This town is thinking the same .
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When I saw the headline , I had to post . If they are going to ne stupid enough to do this then I can imagine that they would also be stupid enough to follow safety rules set done by health government . Stupid putting alot at risk .
Rapides Parish hunters accused of taking more than daily limit on ducks http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061121/NEWS01/61121006
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Tests show Ohio poultry free of bird fluAssociated PressCOLUMBUS, Ohio - More than 18,000 tests of chickens, turkeys and other birds this year have not detected the virulent strain of bird flu in Ohio, poultry officials said. But testing is expected to continue and likely will become a way of life for poultry producers, said Jim Chakeres, executive vice president of the Ohio Poultry Association. "It provides a level of confidence for consumers," and allows producers to monitor the health of their flocks, he said. As long as there isn't an outbreak of the virus in Ohio, the current testing is sufficient, said Chang-Won Lee, an Ohio State University assistant professor who studies avian influenza. The Ohio Department of Agriculture also tests for the virus, conducting 14,000 tests last year. The poultry association's program is voluntary for producers. Chicken and turkey flocks are tested two to three weeks before being slaughtered, and blood or egg samples are sent to the state agriculture department. Breeder flocks, which produce the animals to be slaughtered, are tested quarterly or on a semiannual basis, and animals that lay eggs are tested at least annually, Chakeres said. The virulent H5N1 strain of bird flu has killed 153 people worldwide, mostly in Asia, according to figures compiled by the World Health Organization. |
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State game officials enlist help of hunters
To protect against bird flu, officials may ask to test killed waterfowl
State game officials want help from duck and goose hunters this season to protect Virginians from avian flu Department of Game and Inland Fisheries employees are scouting wildlife-management areas, popular hunting areas and boat ramps along eastern Virginia's waterways. Waterfowl hunters may be asked by game officials to allow them to swab the bagged game to test for the highly pathogenic version of H5N1 avian flu, according to Bob Ellis, assistant director of the wildlife division for the Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries. Species being sampled include tundra swan, mute swan, snow goose, Atlantic brant and mallards. In addition, people should report to game officials unusual sickness or death they observe in waterfowl or shorebirds, such as a die-off of at least five. Hunters should refrain from picking up the birds but note their location and contact game officials. Since 2003, the H5N1 virus has killed more than 100 people and millions of birds worldwide, sparking fears that the virus could mutate into a pandemic influenza. Dozens of species of wild birds, as well as domestic fowl, have been hit by this deadly version of bird flu, called highly pathogenic avian influenza. So far, officials know of no U.S. bird infected by HPAI, nor has anyone in the country been sickened by it. Low-pathogenic viruses common among waterfowl and shorebirds cause little illness among birds and don't threaten human health. Federal officials this summer began monitoring Alaska and the Pacific Northwest as the likeliest region for HPAI's entry from Asia into the United States. But the HPAI virus could also arrive via the Atlantic Flyway, which stretches from Greenland to Canada and south through Virginia to Florida and Puerto Rico. American birds summering in Greenland mix with those migrating from Africa and Europe, where avian flu already exists. That scenario is why game and wildlife officials are fanning out near Virginia's waterways this fall. So far, they've tested about 190 mute swans and about 90 mallards, said Jonathan Sleeman, a state wildlife veterinarian. In some cases, they capture live waterfowl for testing, but typically, they seek birds harvested by hunters along the Chesapeake Bay and inland waterways. Game officials have checked on Tangier Sound, Virginia Beach, the Potomac River, the Beaverdam reservoir, Hog Island and Chickahominy River, according to Sleeman. He said tests on a couple of mallards that died suddenly in Portsmouth came back negative for the H5N1 virus. The surveillance will continue through this winter, possibly into February as the last of the birds migrating south come through Virginia, Sleeman said. State game officials are also working with the U.S. Department of Agriculture on a separate sampling program of live shorebirds. Swabs taken from the waterfowl birds' windpipes and rectums are tested by the state Agriculture Department's lab in Harrisonburg. The cost of the testing of about 1,000 birds this migratory season will top $11,000. |
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Thanks Candles - you do great work
Something from the USGS National Wildlife Center - they have a website now for anyone who wants to look at what birds have been found with LPAI. Here's the annoucement, with links inbedded:
NWHC Activities
The National HPAI Early Detection Data System (HEDDS), through collaboration with DOI and USDA, are making LPAI H5N1 test results available to the public as an on-line table that is updated every time new testing results become available. The table includes the following information: the date the sample was collected, sample location (state and county), the bird species sampled, the collecting agency, the presumptive test results and the confirmatory test results. The test results list the virus isolation (e.g., H6N2, H5N3) and the pathogencity (LPAI or HPAI). A printable version of the table is available as a PDF download. Users can access the table each time they visit the web site or they can be notified of updates by a weekly email or more frequently by subscribing to the RSS feed. Subscription information for both notification types can be found on the HEDDS news page. |
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I find this to be very interesting. Seems possible to me!
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Shadow Hi Heaps on Water Borne Avian on old threads , lots of different views and opinion and news . The forum did one ages ago and it was awesome , unsure how to find it . But the risks seem to be growing in some countries .This is from one a few pages back .
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Toronto Requests Dead Wild Birds For H5N1 Tests ******** Commentary November 30, 2006 Torontonians are being asked to keep an eye out for dead birds. The province is taking part in a national project involving dead birds. This project will help Ontario address the risk of avian influenza. Canada is monitoring the many strains of avian influenza that naturally occur in wild bird populations. One way this is tracked is through the collection and testing of dead birds. This method is only successful if there is a significant level of public participation and awareness. The above request, made today, is better late than never. To date, most surveillance for H5N1 in wild birds in Canada has focused on live birds. However, H5N1 is almost always initially detected in dead birds, wild or poultry. Detection of H5N1 in live birds is generally limited to locations where H5N1 had been previously found in dead birds. In the United States, over 35,000 live or hunter killer birds have been tested. H5N1 has been detected, and on rare occasions has been isolated. However, there are no listings of H5N1 found in dead or dying birds. Reported low path H5N1 has been reported in the absence of high path. However, the failure to find any H5N1 in dead birds signals an experimental design flaw. Unfortunately, this fatally flawed approach is not unexpected. In Africa, 15,000 live wild birds were tested by conservation groups and no H5N1 positives were reported. However, H5N1 is widespread in Africa. It has been detected in dead poultry in Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria, Niger, Ivory Coast, Burkino Faso. In all cases the Qinghai strain was detected, and the sequence data showed that the isolates were from independent introductions, indicating they were from wild birds. Thus, channeling surveillance resources into live bird testing is a formula for failure, which is clear from the data presented in the United States and Canada. Canada however did find H5 in a dead farm goose. Four geese died suddenly after displaying H5N1 symptoms. Only one was tested and H5 was confirmed with a PCR test, but the size of the insert was withheld.. After a week on Prince Edward Island, the sample was shipped to Winnipeg for confirmation of the confirmation, but by then the sample had degraded and the confirmed results in PEI was not re-confirmed in Winnipeg. As a result, Canada did not file file the mandatory OIE report. H5 in farm birds generally leads to import bans, which were avoided by simply failing to confirm the data. That confirmation failure was followed by an unusually high level of detection of influenza in live and dead birds on PEI this year. However, the number of dead birds tested has been low. Similarly, H5N1 has been detected at several locations in the Great Lakes region. Although there have been massive die-offs of wild birds in the same areas, there are now dead birds that were positive form low or high path H5N1, which is clearly due to a lack of testing. The increased effort announced above may yield a sufficient number of birds to more accurately represent the level of low and high path H5N1 in the area. Similar requests should be made throughout North America. |
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Daily updated list of avian situation In birds
30 November 2006 GRAPHMost recent official reports
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Researchers testing for deadly bird flu at Salton Sea
No detection of deadly H5N1 virus anywhere in North America yet Photo GalleryBirds at the Salton Sea
Omar Ornelas, The Desert Sun Hunters check out their prey at Imperial Wildlife Area. Some samples are taken of Northern Pintail, American Wigeon and American Green Winged-Teal excrement to be analyzed for Avian Flu in migratory birds of North America. Keith MathenyThe Desert Sun < = =text/> December 4, 2006 The Salton Sea is one of the fronts in the biggest multi-agency bird investigation in U.S. history, seeking to determine if a deadly strain of avian flu has entered North America through migratory birds.
Federal and state officials have tested 137 waterfowl birds shot by hunters this fall at the Wister Unit of the Salton Sea's Imperial Wildlife Area, said Pam Swift, a veterinarian in the California Department of Fish and Game’s wildlife investigations laboratory. Officials plan to test 100 more birds throughout December and January, she said. Some 60 samples of bird feces were also taken for analysis, and officials plan to collect an additional 90 samples between now and the end of January, Swift said. Of concern is that the deadly H5N1 strain of avian flu could make its way to America via the Pacific Flyway, a migratory route used by hundreds of species of birds, including many of the approximately 400 species that use the Salton Sea as a wintering site or a stopover. Some birds that migrate along the Pacific Flyway, such as northern pintails, nest over the summer in areas in and around Alaska, where they could potentially commingle with birds that migrate along an Asian flyway between countries where the virus is spreading. The World Health Organization has confirmed 258 cases of human infection with the H5N1 virus, leading to 154 deaths. Most of the cases are linked to direct handling of infected poultry. There has been no sustained human-to-human transmission of the disease, but the concern is that H5N1 will evolve into a virus capable of human-to-human transmission, which could spark a pandemic like the 1918-1919 influenza outbreak that caused 50 million deaths worldwide. Of the 80,000 birds tested throughout North America, not a single one has been found infected with the deadly strain of H5N1. “I’m heartened that we so far haven’t had a detection,” said Brad Bortner, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s chief of migratory birds for the Pacific region. on whether (the virus) will get here or not. There’s still migr “(But) I think it’s too early to draw conclusions ation occurring.” |
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More Testing
8:50 a.m. - Live bird sampling today
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Pakistan's Warning .
KARACHI: Bird flu feared with arrival of migratory birds
KARACHI, Dec 5: To prevent the recurrence of the avian influenza that played havoc last year, authorities in Islamabad and all the four provinces have tightened their belts for prevention against the deadly disease as the seasonal migratory birds from Siberia and Central Asia have already started flocking at the country’s lakeside and wetlands. |
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Small article but exp;ains it all .
Chicks and wild ducks dunnit
EVER since H5N1 bird flu spread across Eurasia last year, battle has raged between those who blame it all on migrating wild birds and others who reckon it's the poultry. In fact it was both.
Marm Kilpatrick of the Consortium for Conservation Medicine in New York and colleagues analysed how the virus travelled by comparing H5N1 gene sequences against volumes of bird trade and migration. They found that the poultry trade explains the virus's spread in Asia but migration explains it in Europe (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0609227103). The analysis suggests that H5N1 could invade the Americas by various routes - meaning the US should be testing different birds. From issue 2581 of New Scientist magazine, 09 December 2006, page 20 |
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Nature reserve on bird flu alert(Shanghai Daily)Updated: 2006-12-13 08:43 Zhalong State Nature Reserve for Red-Crowned Cranes, the largest artificial breeding center for red-crowned cranes in the country, is on high alert for bird flu following reports of an outbreak of bird flu in the Republic of Korea. Zhalong, situated south of Qiqihar, a city in western Heilongjiang Province, is on the flight route of migratory birds, exposing the reserve to the possibility of a bird flu outbreak, said Wang Wenfeng, deputy head of Administration for Zhalong State-Level Nature Reserve http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-12/13/content_757425.htm |
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Candles,
I believe this is not quite accurate.
In the event that a sample tests positive for the H5, H6, or H7 virus types, the samples would then be sent to the federal lab in Ames, Iowa for further analysis.
What it should say is: In the event that a sample tests positive for the H5, H6, or H7 virus type we will declare it LPAI so you do not need to be concerned. |
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I'm a bit concerned that the agencies responsible for testing are now appearing to announce that they are suspending testing for this year.
I am in an area, close to the Canadian/US border, and in a location ideal for wild water fowl viewing. Migration is far from complete this year. In the last few days alone I have witnessed huge numbers of migrating geese and swans, still on their way. Too many to even try to guess. But enough that i'm very concerned.
My conern is that these late arrivals are late due to the fact that they have had the farthest to travel. Which would, during this past summer, put them the closest to Asian infected wild fowl. And the ones that should've been tested.
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As the European cases show, there is no doubt that wild birds are involved
to some degree in the virus's spread, but this role has been massively overstated by some (especially the media). The key to halting the virus's further spread undoubtedly lies with better biosecurity measures within the global poultry industry .... Today, it is generally recognised by the FAO and others that the major
vector spreading the virus is movement of poultry and poultry products within the poultry industry, and not wild birds: <http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-11/02/content_5283058.htm Views on birds vs poultry .....................
AVIAN INFLUENZA, POULTRY VS MIGRATORY BIRDS (02) **************************************************** A ProMED-mail post <http://www.promedmail.org> ProMED-mail is a program of the International Society for Infectious Diseases <http://www.isid.org> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 8:09 AM From: Richard Thomas <richard.thomas@birdlife.org> [The following are the private comments of Richard Thomas and do not necessarily represent those of Birdlife International.] The threat posed by Highly Pathogenic H5N1 is still present and the virus is evading attempts to control its spread. Today, it is generally recognised by the FAO and others that the major vector spreading the virus is movement of poultry and poultry products within the poultry industry, and not wild birds: <http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-11/02/content_5283058.htm> The presence of the virus [in] a national poultry industry can have massive financial consequences, both on the industry itself and even on national tourism, and it is perhaps not surprising that government cover-ups of the presence of H5N1 have been alleged: <http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2004/s1032638.htm> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3427249.stm> <http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/bird-flu-coverup-alleged/2005/10/20/1129775901802.html> Findings indicating arrival of the virus from within the poultry industry have been played down in favour of an alternative theory claiming arrival via wild birds: <http://www.the-scientist.com/news/20050715/01/> However, the movement of H5N1 from outside its Asian core range to Eastern Europe, Africa, the Middle East and South Asia all tally much better with movement through the poultry trade than through wild bird migration. Outbreaks from China leading west to Eastern Europe follow road and railway lines. No wild bird migrates in this direction, nor does any species spend the spring in the east of its range, but autumn in the west. The outbreaks broadly follow the Silk Road, a well-established trading route, and there are reports of long-distance H5N1 transport from a contaminated poultry factory in a city directly on this route: <http://www.fao.org/docs/eims/upload/152954/AVIbull006x.pdf> See also moderator MHJ's comment in: ProMED-mail, Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (02) Archive 20060218.0536 posted 18 February 2006. Outbreaks in Egypt and India occurred within the commercial poultry industry (and there is at least one report that defective vaccines were involved): <http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2006/794/eg7.htm> The transfer of the virus to Nigeria was, with hindsight, entirely predictable, based on economic and trade considerations. Poultry imports to Nigeria were officially banned because of H5N1 fears, but the country lacked the technology to raise sufficient day-old chicks to meet its own demands, and commercial poultry farmers were calling for the ban to be lifted. <http://www.zartechltd.com/news/Magazine/Jan_200.../jan2005mag.asp?pageno=Page%2021&pagepix=21.jpg> To overcome the shortage, chicks were being imported illegally, with China and Turkey both stated by the Nigerian Agriculture Minister as sources, whilst chicks were being flown from Egypt to the Niger Republic via Kano airport in Nigeria -- where the first case of H5N1 was reported in a commercial "biosecure" farm (both Egypt and the Niger Republic reported the virus a few days later): <http://www.birdlife.org/news/pr/2006/02/avian_flu_nigeria.html> The FAO found that backyard poultry production was, at least in Thailand, less risky in terms of H5N1 infection than closed, "biosecure" poultry factories, a finding that doesn't implicate wild birds in the virus's spread: <http://www.fao.org/AG/AGAINFO/projects/en/pplpi/docarc/pb_hpaibiosecurity.html> There was a similar finding in Laos, where 42 of 45 outbreaks were found on commercial enterprises: <http://www.fas.usda.gov/gainfiles/200503/146119131.pdf> The recent outbreaks in South Korea follow a similar pattern (as did outbreaks in Nigeria, Egypt, India and Japan) with "biosecure" operations infected, but adjacent, "less-secure" farms unaffected: <http://www.birdskorea.org/eyewitnessDEC06.asp> Other potentially major virus-spreading vectors that appear to be little researched include the spreading of poultry manure on fields (see the "muck-spreading" photograph accompanying <http://www.fao.org/AG/AGAINFO/projects/en/pplpi/docarc/pb_hpaibiosecurity.html>, overflow ponds associated with poultry operations, which can lead to contamination of the surrounding environment: <http://www.uswaternews.com/archives/arcrights/3tysple7.html>, and the use of chicken faeces as animal feed. All of these are plausible sources for the virus that contaminated wild bird populations in the Black Sea region in early 2006. Subsequent cold weather led to a scattering of dead H5N1-infected wild birds across several European countries. To date, this represents the strongest evidence that wild birds can fly a significant distance before dying after infection. A recent paper argues that wild birds are victims of biosecurity lapses within the poultry industry, but that once contaminated, they are unlikely to be able to sustain the virus for any length of time: <http://www.mun.ca/serg/Muzaffar06AvianFluFinal.pdf>. As expected, the European outbreaks ended abruptly, and there is no evidence the virus has persisted in wild bird populations. As the European cases show, there is no doubt that wild birds are involved to some degree in the virus's spread, but this role has been massively overstated by some (especially the media). The key to halting the virus's further spread undoubtedly lies with better biosecurity measures within the global poultry industry. --- Dr Richard Thomas Wellbrook Court Girton Road Cambridge CB3 0NA UNITED KINGDOM Fax +44 1223 277200 <richard.thomas@birdlife.org> [Thanks to Richard for his review of this topic. - Mod.MHJ] [see also: Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds 20070102.0013 2006 ---- Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (35) 20061103.3153 Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (30) 20060621.1711 Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (25) 20060606.1571 Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (20) 20060518.1396 Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (15) 20060429.1240 Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (10) 20060324.0907 Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (05) 20060228.0645 Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds 20060217.0516] ...................................................mhj/pg/dk http://www.promedmail.org/pls/promed/f?p=2400:1000 |
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Old Oak, I am also concerned...as someone pointed out to me previously on this site, spanish flu started in the SUMMER! HELLO!?!?!
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"While we're reassured from our targeted sampling efforts, we can't say with 100 percent certainty that we're clean," he said. Officials confirm no sign of bird flu from Alaska testsThe Associated Press Published: January 9, 2007 JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) - There were no signs of the deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu from tests conducted in Alaska in 2006, state officials said Tuesday. "Roughly 21,000 wild birds in Alaska were sampled for avian flu by federal and state agencies last year," Tom Rothe, waterfowl coordinator with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, said in a prepared statement. "That number exceeded state and federal goals to sample 15,000 to 20,000 birds from the 26 target species we consider likely carriers of Asian H5N1 because of their migratory patterns, association with outbreak areas in Asia, or other factors," he said. Scientists were concerned that the deadly strain would show up first in wild migratory birds in Alaska and then spread to the rest of North America. Officials said no cases of the deadly strain were found but, but as expected, other low pathogenic forms of avian flu did turn up. Of the samples collected by the state game department, about 7 percent tested positive for some sort of low-pathogenic avian influenza. "Waterfowl are known to naturally harbor various types of low-pathogenic avian influenza throughout the year," Rothe said. Rothe cautioned that even though thousands of birds were tested, that's just a small sample of the wild birds that pass through Alaska. "While we're reassured from our targeted sampling efforts, we can't say with 100 percent certainty that we're clean," he said. He expects Fish and Game to sample more birds this year, "but the extent of our work will depend on a lot of factors, including global trends in H5N1. |
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On Bird droppings .
Bird waste poses possible health risk
Droppings fall on Holliday, Broad, Kemp By Michael Hines/Times Record News Medical/military reporter Michael Hines can be reached at 940-720-3456 or by email at HinesM(at)TimesRecordNews.com Pigeon droppings aren't just found beneath the city's underpasses.
While the city focuses on ousting birds that have gathered at the Broad and Holliday street overpasses, there's no reason to think the flock stops there. Medians along Kemp and Call Field also show the tell-tale signs of bird bowel movements. They may not be as big a deal, though, based on the outcry to Larry Krugle, street superintendent for the city.
"I've not had any complaints," he said. "The best thing you can do is run a street cleaner through it."
The city cleans its streets about every six weeks, a good idea in light of the health hazards posed by such waste.
Three types of illnesses came to Tom Sidwa's mind in connection with bird droppings. The manager of the zoonosis control branch of the Department of State Health Services pointed to the virus salmonella as well as fungal problems related to the build-up of the waste.
"There are certainly pathogens in feces of virtually any species," he said.
Salmonella bacteria already exist in the intestines but get out along with feces. With bird droppings, the chief problem would be falling into the mess and not washing up afterward.
"The solution to that is personal hygiene," Sidwa said.
Fungus problems arise because of birds' continual waste.
Cattle egrets are the main spur to one type of fungus.
"What's happening is that the environment that feces provides allows these organisms to develop in that matrix," Sidwa said, explaining things can get really bad when the dried waste gets into the air. "Feces from a bird has a potential of causing organisms that can harm people."
Similarly, droppings from pigeons that accumulate can result in the yeast-like fungus Cryptococcus. It can cause problems in the lungs and nervous system.
"Cryptococossis is really a big problem with AIDS patients," Sidwa said.
Another bird concern comes from fliers such as parakeets, turkeys and ducks. The infectious disease appears as mild, nonspecific flu-like symptoms.
"With the fungus, the take-home message is don't disturb it by trying to clean it out unless you know what you're doing," Sidwa said.
Overall, though, health problems from bird droppings aren't something that happens very often at the level of droppings seen in city settings.
"It takes some doing," he said.
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Sri Lanka There's a lot of bird deaths this week
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This is interesting reading from Promed re birds and Munias and USA
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[2] Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:04:56 -0000 From: Mary Marshall <tropical.forestry@btinternet.com> Source: Reuters [edited] <http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L11708674.htm> EU animal health experts have tightened rules for the import of live captive birds as part of the bloc's strategy to fight bird flu, the EU's executive Commission said in a statement on Thursday. "Under the regulation agreed today, only specific countries or regions which have already been approved to export live commercial poultry will be allowed to export captive birds to the EU," it said. The list of countries approved to export live captive birds to the EU would be limited to those already approved to export live poultry to EU markets, it said. These were Australia, Canada, Chile, Croatia, Israel, New Zealand and the United States, along with certain states in Brazil. However, certain 3rd countries that were geographically close to the European Union would be exempt from the new rules, it added -- Andorra, Lichtenstein, Monaco, Norway, San Marino, Switzerland and Vatican City. "I am very glad that member states could agree to these tighter rules for captive bird imports," EU Commissioner for Health and Consumer Protection Markos Kyprianou said. "The devastation that the H5N1 avian influenza virus has caused globally serves as a reminder that we can take no chances in this area," he said. The EU's new rules will not apply to certain types of birds, including commercial poultry and pet birds accompanying their owners, since these were already covered by separate EU laws. Exporter countries will have to prove the absence of bird flu as well as the highly contagious Newcastle disease virus. Birds destined for EU countries may not be vaccinated against avian flu and all imported birds will have to be individually identifiable through a leg-ring or microchip. -- ProMED-mail <promed@promedmail.org> ****** [3] Date: Monday, January 8, 2007 From: Robin Bush <rmbush@uci.edu> I am not an ornithologist. I was trained in ecology and evolution and now work on human influenza. But I do know my local birds in Orange County, California. So take it for what it is worth, but I swear I had a pair of birds at my feeder during 2006 that looked exactly like those in your link: <http://tariquesani.net/albums/userpics/DSC_37062843_filtered.jpg>. They were so striking. I tried to look them up in my Peterson's guide and of course failed. I don't know if there are any other similar looking species of Munias, but the dark rusty red face and characteristic chest were what I was searching on. Orange County/LA is home to millions of Asian immigrants and a hospitable climate for immigrant birds as well. I assume they are pet escapees. I wondered if the hard-core birders in Orange County had seen my munias. So I went to the web site of our local Audubon society and found this link: <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OrangeCountyBirding> Go there and search on "Munia". [There are 5 entries - Mod.MHJ]. It is not too clear which or how many species of munias people are seeing from these notes. But nobody seems surprised by seeing them. And the posts are several years old. My friend Tom Smith, an avian ecologist at UCLA, suspects that what I saw were escaped "cage birds", which makes me wonder whether a call to a pet store specializing in exotic birds might not shed a lot of light on this issue. -- Dr. Robin Bush Dept. of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology University of California, Irvine <rmbush@uci.edu> [So if anyone thinks the EU is being excessively cautious, think again. If Munias have come in once, they can come in again, and again ... - Mod.MHJ] [see also: Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (06) 20070108.0082 Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (05) 20070107.0071 Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (04) 20070105.0049 Avian http://www.promedmail.org/pls/promed/f?p=2400:1000 |
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