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    Posted: February 09 2020 at 5:32pm
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About time! Satellite images don’t lie about what is really going on
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About time! Satellite images don’t lie about what is really going on. Hopefully WHO will have a backbone and ask for transparency and Chinese people will get the outside help they need
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WHO with a backbone? Dont count on it...they have been falling all over themselves to say what a great job they are doing there and telling us we have nothing to worry about and dont need any PPE.

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We are sc*ewed better get your final preps in, snow has slowed me down a bit but will be ready this week.
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Where do you find the satellite images. Plz
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prepare for the worst,hope for the best.
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I don't think anyone should make the mistake that China failed to diligently and completely bury the proverbial bodies because they're letting WHO in.
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Couldn't get it open. Maybe someone else could be successful.


https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3051026/americans-who-team-assess-coronavirus-crisis-china-says
  • Experts to visit Beijing, Guangdong and Sichuan but Hubei is not on the itinerary
  • Specialists say visit must include a trip to the outbreak’s epicentre to get a full picture
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I think the experts are going to be sorely disappointed.
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Here is article Pixie

Americans on WHO team to assess coronavirus crisis, China says
Experts to visit Beijing, Guangdong and Sichuan but no word on whether Hubei is on the itinerary
Specialists say visit must include a trip to the outbreak’s epicentre to get a full picture

Wendy Wu and Sarah Zheng   Published: 7:18pm, 17 Feb, 2020

A nurse cares for a 14-month-old baby infected with the novel coronavirus in an ICU isolation ward of Wuhan Children’s Hospital in Wuhan, at the epicentre of the outbreak. Photo: Xinhua

A team of medical experts from the World Health Organisation (WHO), including specialists from the US, will visit Beijing and the Chinese provinces of Guangdong and Sichuan from Monday to assess the country’s efforts to contain the spread of a deadly coronavirus, according to the Chinese foreign ministry.
But the ministry did not say whether the team would go to Wuhan or any other parts of Hubei, the central Chinese province at the epicentre of the outbreak, raising concerns among medical experts about the transparency of the mission.
The death toll from the coronavirus had risen to 1,770 on mainland China as of Sunday, infecting 70,548 people, including more than 1,700 medical workers. Most of those confirmed with the disease, now known as Covid-19, are in Wuhan.
China has repeatedly said it welcomes international cooperation to contain the outbreak, but the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention said last week that it had not yet received an invitation to send experts to the country.
On Monday, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the WHO delegation would include Americans, but gave no further details.


The announcement came as a commentary in Communist Party mouthpiece People’s Daily accused Washington of dragging its feet on a funding pledge to help with the epidemic, saying it had a “dark mentality and taken dangerous action” during the outbreak.

WHO director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Friday that the mission to China included 12 international medical specialists, and they would, with 12 Chinese experts, learn more about the transmission of the virus and the effectiveness of the measures in a bid to work out the next containment steps for China and the world.

An advance team of WHO medical experts arrived in Beijing last Monday, led by Canadian emergency expert Bruce Aylward, Tedros said.

China’s National Health Commission (NHC) said all of the delegation’s members arrived in Beijing over the weekend, and held talks with Chinese medical experts, public health officials and other government departments.

They exchanged views on virus containment, wildlife management and vaccine development, the NHC said.

Experts said the international team would be left with an “incomplete picture” of the outbreak if it did not go to Wuhan or Hubei.

“Unfortunately, this feeds into a narrative that China is trying to hide the true nature of the outbreak, so it would seem to be shortsighted and counterproductive to China’s efforts to say to the world that it is doing everything it can to contain this outbreak,” said Adam Kamradt-Scott, a specialist in global health security and international relations at the University of Sydney.
“We have seen in the past when we have external teams, they are often able to identify areas for improvement or to make recommendations for measures that national authorities may not have thought of – we’ve seen that through other examples where external expertise can be valuable in times of crisis.”
He said any impression of a cover-up would likely further strengthen the resolve of countries that had taken strict measures, including travel bans, to keep them in place or tighten them further.
“China has got a public relations campaign that it also needs to be mindful of in engaging with the international community, so there are the actual measures that the government needs to take in order to control the outbreak, but the government also needs to be seen to be doing everything that it can,” he said.
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https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1179882.shtml

The epidemic-stricken Hubei is not included in the international expert team's destinations, which, according to experts, is because the province is at a vital time combating the epidemic, and cannot spare time and people to receive the experts.  
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Originally posted by Pixie Pixie wrote:

The epidemic-stricken Hubei is not included in the international expert team's destinations, which, according to experts, is because the province is at a vital time combating the epidemic, and cannot spare time and people to receive the experts.  

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Communist china leaders I say to you “liar liar pants on fire”. You obviously don’t want to tell the world what you have. You unleashed holly hell on your people and the world and you are still hoping for no consequences on the world stage. Admit your mistake(at least I hope it was) and let the world help you!!!
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Coronavirus Death Smog: Is China Burning Thousands of Infected Bodies?
Rising sulfur dioxide levels in air around Wuhan suggests China's govt could be burning thousands of bodies to contain coronavirus outbreak.
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Large amounts of sulfur dioxide clusters in China is raising speculation of China burning piles of bodies. | Source: DALE DE LA REY / AFP
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Originally posted by Usk Usk wrote:

Communist china leaders I say to you “liar liar pants on fire”.
Oh, Usk, how could you possibly say such a cruel thing about those nice Communists that run China?  That is almost as bad as accusing them of putting thousands of Muslims in prison and mentally torturing them to be 'good citizens' and we all know that is only a nasty rumour.  Next people will be saying that they sentence prisoners to death for minor crimes and remove their vital organs for transplant sale.  I have even heard it said that they have been accused of putting people in prison for speaking against them.

Anyone would think they were repressive - shame on you! LOL
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Look our government know about the burning bodies that is why the are setting quarantine camps at military bases all around the county. They know it will be here sooner or later. WHO going is a sham they will learn nothing the do not already know they have samples of the virus so the visit is for PR benefit only.
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Look our government know about the burning bodies that is why the are setting quarantine camps at military bases all around the county. They know it will be here sooner or later. WHO going is a sham they will learn nothing the do not already know they have samples of the virus so the visit is for PR benefit only.


Agreed. New head of WHO same as the old head (Margaret "Coverup" Chan)
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