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Why Russia's numbers so low?

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    Posted: May 13 2020 at 11:40am

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/experts-want-to-know-why-coronavirus-hasnt-killed-more-russians/ar-BB141OAJ?ocid=spartandhp


I'm more curious if these numbers given are right... 6.8%????

Even as its infections have accelerated, Russia remains the only one of the 10 most-affected nations with a death rate below 1%. Spain, France and the U.K. have mortality rates among those confirmed to have coronavirus ranging from 12% to 14%, while the U.S. comes in at 6% and Germany at 4.4%. Globally, out of 4.3 million known infections, 293,366, or 6.8%, have died.

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Russia is a bit more honest than China - I know, that's not saying much.

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But are we really at 6.8%?!?!  Here in Canada it's 72,200 cases & 5301 deaths so 0.0734 percent fatality... 6.8% overall seems awful high?  Or is my very tired brain not thinking right and that's 7% vs .07% ??? 


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5301 ÷72200 ×100 = 7.34%

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Russia is just one of many countries that seems to have a very low Case Fatality Rate.  Many of the Middle Eastern countries are in the same situation [Qatar 0.06%, Bahrain 0.16%, Djibouti 0.25%, Oman 0.48%, Saudi Arabia 0.63%, Kuwait 0.67%, Palestinian Territories 0.73%].    It seems that they are willing to test for, but not to attribute deaths to, the coronavirus. 

To get a good picture one needs to look at total deaths and what is being recorded as pneumonia or heart attack / stroke and if these are up against a 'normal year'.

We can expect statistical variation between countries, but as a standard one could use a country with a record of a good testing policy such as South Korea. South Korea has a Case Fatality Rate of about 2.35% - so if a country seems to be doing significantly better than they are probably using a different definition for what is a "Corvid19 death".  Differing definitions do make country to country comparison hard.

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Originally posted by "BBC Live News "BBC Live News wrote:

Questions are mounting over Russia's extraordinarily low reported mortality rate - only 2,305 deaths with 252,000 infected. Moscow's department of health says it does not include most deaths of Covid-19 patients in official statistics because they had other potentially lethal illnesses. St Petersburg has reported an unexplained spike in deaths from pneumonia - five-and-a-half times the usual number and 10 times the official number of Covid-19 deaths in the city.Meduza, an independent Russian website, says official statistics are doctored and Russians are effectively “not allowed to die from coronavirus”. Many of those who find official numbers hard to believe keep their own tally.

Medical workers have their own list of colleagues they say have been killed by coronavirus. Even Orthodox priests have launched their own list "because official statistics are incomplete". Earlier, the Financial Times said Russia’s Covid-19 death toll could be 70% higher than official figure, but officials in Moscow dismissed such reports as "fake".

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