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Why Vaccines will always come too late - Event Date: May 09 2013 - September 21 2014

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    Posted: May 09 2013 at 1:19am

Analysing the Spanish Flu against the history of the 2009 Swine Flu shows every intelligent person that a vaccine cure for a future avian human-to-human killer virus (all viruses are different as they constantly mutate) will simply come too late as the time horizons are too short. Indeed even if we could produce an antidote within 8 weeks in the laboratory, which presently is around 6 months, it takes over 26 weeks to manufacture, distribute and administer to 1/3rd of the masses and as was the case in the USA in 2009, this will be far too long and every affected person will have died. Those are the facts based on recent history.

The 1918 pandemic did its worst (in the second wave after it had mutated into the human-to-human mass killer) following the first human death between week 16 and week 26 after the second wave. Between 50 million and 100 million perished out of a world population of around 1.5 billion (less than 25% of the population now). Therefore in a mere 6 months from initial human death, most had died an absolutely appalling and suffocating death.

Time Horizons for the 2009 Swine Flu Pandemic against the 1918 Spanish flu

Time Scale - 0 months
Swine Flu first detected – Influenza A, Novel H1N1 "swine flu" was first detected in Mexico City and was made public March 18, 2009. Therefore the first causality was probably at the beginning of March 2009 taking into account the incubation period.

First Death in USA
Time Scale + 2-months later  at the end of April 2009

1st Vaccine Approved
Time Scale + 6 months 2 weeks
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the new swine flu vaccine for use in the United States on September 15, 2009.

Mass Vaccine 1st ready for use in USA
Time Scale + 7 months 1 week
The vaccine was first ready from mass production and used on 5th October 2009 in the USA

Most Vaccinated City in the USA by 22nd March 2010
Time Scale + 1 year 1month 1 week
Massachusetts vaccinated more residents against the swine flu and seasonal flu in the fall and winter than any other state.
Up to the end of Winter (March 2010) - The Massachusetts Department of Public Health says 36 percent of residents were inoculated against the swine flu, also known as H1N1, compared with 21 percent nationally. Seasonal flu vaccinations were administered to 57 percent of the population, compared with 37 percent nationwide.
A mere 36% in one USA city and where nationally only 21% had the vaccine by March 22nd 2010. This was approximately 13 months after the first human death was recorded in Mexico.


Therefore compared to the Spanish Flu where the fastest transit system was the ‘slow’ boat to China and now we have rapid jet travel, the next equivalent to the Spanish Flu will travel like wildfire throughout the planet. Also as the Spanish Flu killed most within 6 months of the first detected death and a vaccine was not authorised by the US government until over 7 months after the first detected death from Swine Flu in 2009, the vast majority of people have no chance of being saved. Therefore the vaccine thinking and strategy is sheer madness and if the world does not change its mindset, the unthinkable will definitely happen eventually. Then most will lose a loved one or entire families.

The world has to come to its senses before it is far too late and adopt Professor Shortridge's strategy for our own good - , as it is the only one that has worked and will save the lives of literally 100s of millions.


Dr David Hill
World Innovation Foundation

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Vaccines are backed by lies.  I decided to sit down for a while and do some further research on the subject of vaccines.  I have done a lot of prior research and have always come back to the same conclusion.  Vaccines are dangerous.  I have read all kinds of testimony and have seen some of the outrageous amounts of money spent to keep vaccine injury reports suppressed.  Why would a vaccine company like Baxter try to cover this up?  Because they have something to hide obviously.  I would like to point out some facts about the H1N1 Swine flu pandemic.  How many died?  How many got sick?  I know of noone that was either sick or dieing and having died from H1N1 in 2009.  I personally know of 2 people that died last year from the regular flu.  As far as I am concerned, Swine flu is a lie.  I never even caught a cold during that time.  I know of noone that was vaccinated either.  I know I said no way.  I don't believe the vaccine lie anymore.  I was young and foolish once.  I believed in the lie back then.  Now I know better and I do my homework.  I investigated H1N1 and went to the CDC website once a day to look at the vaccine counts.  It is still in the CDC website archives.  I looked into what is in vaccines.  Do you know?  If you believe vaccines are ok and a healthy means to boost the immune system then noone can stop you but I would encourage that you check the ingredients before vaccination.  I am sure vaccines can be made safe and effective but currently that is not the case.  If you are preprogrammed to reject this information then this message is not for you.  If you are an open minded, aware person with a rational mind, you can see right through the lies.  I am simply here to warn you of the dangers that come with vaccines.  The misinformation about pandemics and thier vaccination programs are wide spread and financially backed by large pharmaceutical corperartions.  If you are preprogrammed with thier lies and wish not to break the programming it will be through discourse of cognitive dissonance.  This is where one attempts to justify thier actions by willingly ignoring or dismissing relevant information that can even be proven.  One will explain away the evidence that may suggest one's programming is incorrect.  It is not one's logic that is faulty because that would suggest that one is examining all of the evidence before casting judgement.  There is no excuse for ignoring obvious facts anymore.  This is the age of information where ignorance is a choice.  We must quickly become aware of the malevolant agenda of the mass vaccine programs.  It is not about your health, it is about damaging your health to maintain the health industry scam that is robbing us of more than just our health.  They want your money too.  If this was about real healthcare it would not be such a heavy burden on your wallet.  I will admit, I am a bit eccentric but I am just the messanger and I write these things because I care.  I want you to care too.  If you don't care that is fine, I will absorb all of your insults and misgivings.  I recently replied to Technophobe about her son having a massive case of Autism.  She seemed to be in denial about what caused her son's condition.  This is understandable.  She does not want to come to terms with the fact the doctor she trusts has poisoned her child and permanantly injured him with vaccines.  That is a horrible reality to live with.  I feel terrible about that.  My youngest child was diagnosed with Autism 3 days after her 12th month vaccine program.  They were her first 4 vaccines and she was not the same after that.  She was later cleared of this diagnosis and is not Autistic.  She was 12 months and 5 days old when she was diagnosed 3 days after her first vaccines.  I was angry after doing some research.  Granted she did not get autism but she did change her behaviour immediatly after getting vaccinated.  Thinking about it brings me to tears.  I should have known better.  You see, I have reasons for doinf what I do, saying what I say.  If you believe vaccines ar good then you are entitled to to that.  You can believe whatever you want but for goodness sake please look at the facts.  Do not give in to your programming, try to look at things objectively.  Let go of ego.  You should be allowed to question things.  When censorship arises this should be a red flag.  Vaccines are the number one health threat and you should be allowed to know the facts.  I suggest you reject your programming and look very closely on the subject.  You will just the science is flawed and it's benefactors are delievering misinformation on a massive scale.  I am not trying to hurt anyone, I am not in the buisness of pushing vaccines at all.  If you want then run, run to your doctor and demand the latets vaccines be pumped into your body  immediately.  Pump your children full of vaccines, recommend them to everyone you know.  You should buy some spares, then randomly stick people when they aren't looking.  Let us see how many are happy to get thier shots.  Do as you wish but if you try to stick me you will get quite a protest as I will no longer comply.  I have had plenty of vaccines, I am all set with that.  You may think I am stupid, insane or not even correct.  That is fine by me.  Think whatever you like but please for the love of humanity think twice before you have your children vaccinated.  Ask your doctor about the facts.  Is your doctor willing to take full responsabilty and sign a form before vaccination?  Will your doctor par damages for vaccine injury?  Will your doctor know the vaccine ingredients before administering?  I am really focused on vaccine awareness right now for a reason. 
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