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Some sites to follow;

https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377

https://twitter.com/intelcrab

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/

A few US sites (with often a very limited perspective)

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/

https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/the-revenge-for-the-assassination-of-qassem-soleimani.html After the US shot down an Iranian airbus july 1988 Iran (via Libya ?) did bring down a PanAm flight at Lockerbie in december 1988.

Trump is now trying to limit the damage of his stupidity a.o. via Qatar (lifting of sanctions when Iran does not revenge etc.)

DJ-Most likely Trump can forget getting reelected. His voters wanted the US moving out of the Middle East NOT starting an even bigger war with Iran, restarting a war with Iraq etc.

DJ-Both Russia and China condemned the US murder of gen.Soleimani. Both must see it as a US attempt to stop Russia's planned link to the Indian Ocean and China's link to the EU/Africa (both via Iran).

In that way the US indirectly attacked also Russia and China. They will deal with that (go for "facts-policy", real-politik-if the US goes for regime change they can do that even better-Mexico ???)-there is no point in talking with someone out for a fight. If the US wants war it can get war.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/iran-hacked-the-federal-depository-website-posted-a-warning-prelude-to-false-flag-bank-collapse
It is easy to blame Iran for any anti-US actions-it does not solve anything. The US is bankrupt-the world is dumping the US$ and major US companies may leave the US or go bankrupt.

(Boeing is very dependent on US military orders-still those orders may not save that company for software errors in the 737-MAX. Airbus took over the #1 position in civil aviation.)

DJ-The end goal of the Russia-Iran-China coalition, (and with that the SCO, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union etc.) may become to "unable" the US to stay in a global leading position much longer. "Make the US a Brazil+".

Putin and Xi know how to get their goals without going for all out war. (The US does not seem to know what diplomacy is.)

Both the US and Iran will try to avoid an open-major-war. The US-Iran conflict started in 1979 (one can say the US-China conflict started in 1949, the US-Russia conflict started even before 1917-a.o. due to Russian America/Alaska). The US want puppets in every country doing what the US tells them to do.

This total lack of respect can also cause a break in EU-US relations. Already there are conflicts over Northstream, the Iran-deal, the Iraq-war, climate, EU-cars and steel etc. At a certain point the gap gets to wide-Asia to tempting. The US murder of Soleimani (even without informing the UK-one of the US closest allies) is yet another push that will make the EU more interested in doing deals with Russia, China, Iran etc.

Israel/Netanyahu may get desperate-he needs "his war"with Iran to stay out of prison. Some groups in the US will keep pushing for all out war with Iran. Most likely the Pentagon will stop such a war as "to risky" most likely far worse than Viet Nam.

For the moment the only wise thing the US now can do is get their troops out of the Middle East a.s.a.p. (or are they waiting for Russian forces to provide protection of US forces in Iraq, Syria ???)
Several Iraqi groups are now out for a kill in Iraq and Syria. The US has no chance of a "peacefull outcome".
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https://southfront.org/we-need-to-get-out-of-iraq-and-syria-now-tulsi-gabbard/ DJ-Since the US is not serious in getting US forces out of Iraq and Syria those forces most likely will be attacked in the short term.

The US claim they fight IS is false IS is a US creation as an excuse to steal oil and put pressure on Russia China. https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/iraqi-parliament-expels-foreign-militaries-from-iraq.html

https://www.rt.com/news/477028-pompeo-visit-kazakhstan-geopolitical-reasons/ The US is looking for alternatives in Asia for US bases. (Most likely the US will be less welcome because of how the US behaved in Iraq.)

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/why-us-wants-lower-germans-real-wages and https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/europeans-havent-been-helpful-after-suleimani-killing-pompeo-slams-allies-not
DJ-The US is loosing its European allies.

DJ-Most likely Iran is in talks with Russia and China on "oil-for-weapons"deals. Both Russia and China will give advice on how to deal with the present crisis.
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https://southfront.org/iraqi-prime-minister-soleimani-arrived-in-baghdad-to-receive-de-escalation-proposal-from-saudi-arabia-trump-supported-initiative/;
On January 5, Iraqi Prime MinisterAdil Abdul-Mahdi reportedly provided additional details into the US assassination of the commander of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Qods Force, Qassem Soleimani.
According to the available data, the Iranian commander arrived in Baghdad under an official request from Iraq. He was set to receive de-escalation proposals that Saudi Arabia sent to Iran via Iraq. US President Donald Trump allegedly supported this idea during a phone call with the Iraqi Prime Minister.

Therefore, the US supposedly used this initiative to set a trap for the Iranian military commander and assasinate him.

HINT:. President Donald Trump spoke over phone with Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi on December 31 after demonstrators stormed the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/insight-into-cancellation-of-my-radio-show-caller-revealed-us-treachery-with-general-soleimani-death (DJ-Hal Turner is very pro-Trump, when even he calls this act treachery-how low did the US go ?)

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/rockets-mortars-landing-near-us-embassy-in-baghdad-now-multiple-explosions,
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/u-s-satellites-and-spy-planes-see-fueled-missiles-on-iran-coast-launch-imminent

DJ-Trump would attack 52 Iran targets-when he does Iran would https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/iran-commander-says-they-will-level-tel-aviv-and-haifa

https://www.rt.com/news/477539-iraq-sanctions-base-withdrawl/
Iraq should brace itself for sanctions that'll make the ones placed on Iran look pale in comparison if it kicks out the US troops without first covering the costs the US spent on its airbase there, US President Donald Trump said.
“We have a very extraordinarily expensive air base that’s there. It cost billions of dollars to build, long before my time. We’re not leaving unless they pay us back for it," Trump told reporters on board of the Air Force One on Sunday.

The punitive measures that the US is ready to slap on its supposed ally in the fight against the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) will be even harsher than the crippling sanctions already in effect against Tehran, the US leader said.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-says-us-will-not-leave-iraq-unless-billions-air-base-are-repaid
DJ-If the US does not leave Iraq how do they plan to stay there ? Sending an occupation force of over a 100.000 US soldiers under constant attack and without (major) help from any ally ? When Saudi Arabia would send some forces north over the Iraq-KSA border Saudi Arabia would be under attack both from Yemen AND Iraq-stupidity rules !

DJ-Iraq did not ask for the 2003 invasion. Saddam Hussein was an US ally in the 1980-1988 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
(Saudi Arabia did pay Iraq to develop Weapons of Mass Destruction against Iran. Those WMD would be used as an excuse for the 2003 US(led) invasion. No WMD were found-Iraq did destroy them earlier after the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War (The US told Iraq it was OK when they invaded Kuwait (for oil/gas dispute-to pay for debts caused by the Iran-Iraq War the US wanted in reaction to the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran)

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/meet-qassem-soleimanis-replacement-esmail-ghaani-irans-new-top-military-leader;
"That Qaani survived at such high ranks in the (Guard), and remained Soleimani’s deputy for so long, says a lot about the trust both Khamenei and Soleimani had in him," said Afshon Ostovar, the author of a book on the Guard. "I suspect he’ll have little difficulty filling Soleimani’s shoes when it comes to operations and strategy."
(DJ-The US killed a Iran general/diplomat to see him replaced with someone equal-what was the point of this Soleimani-murder ?)

It is somehow ironic that the U.S. has spent lots of lives and money to "spread democracy" in Iraq only to be kicked out through an Iraqi parliament vote.

There is a clear danger in this act. The Trump administration is now likely to see Iraq as completely in the Iranian camp. That never was and never will be true but that is how it will be seen. The U.S. may therefore again start to pay (with Saudi money?) Sunni extremists, i.e. ISIS, to change the current situation to its advantage.

That is one reason why I recommend to Iraq to invite Russia to train its army.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/iraqi-parliament-expels-foreign-militaries-from-iraq.html
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First https://iraq.liveuamap.com/en/2020/6-january-three-new-cases-of-h1n1-flu-recorded-in-akre-- DJ-There is (H1N1) flu in northern Iraq. War has always been a "super spreader of disease". Many pandemics can be related to major wars. The latest major pandemic-Spanish Flu-had everything to do with World War 1. May have killed up to 5% of the global population between 1917-1923.

https://www.asiatimes.com/2020/01/article/financial-n-option-will-settle-trumps-oil-war/;
For all the rumble surrounding Iraqi commitment to expel US troops and the Iranian pledge to react to the Soleimani assassination at a time of its choosing, there’s no way to make the imperial masters listen without a financial hit.

Enter the world derivatives market, which every major player knows is a financial WMD.

The derivatives are used to drain a trillion dollars a year out of the market in manipulated profits. These profits, of course, are protected under the “too big to prosecute” doctrine.
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If Tehran ever decided to shut down the Strait of Hormuz – call it the nuclear option – that would trigger a world depression as trillions of dollars of derivatives imploded.

The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) counts about $600 billion in total derivatives. Not really. Swiss sources say there are at least 1.2 quadrillion with some placing it at 2.5 quadrillion. That would imply a derivatives market 28 times the world’s GDP.

On Hormuz, the shortage of 22% of the world oil supply simply could not be papered over. It would detonate a collapse and cause a market crash infinitely worse than 1933 Weimar Germany.

The Pentagon gamed every possible scenario of a war on Iran – and the results are grim. Sound generals – yes, there are some – know the US Navy would not be able to keep the Strait of Hormuz open: it would have to leave immediately or, as sitting ducks, face total annihilation.

DJ-Soleimani was supposed to visit Iraq PM to have talks on Saudi deescalation deals. Saudi Arabia does want to have good relations with Russia and China (just like Israel). Killing Soleimani did stop Saudi Arabia being able to find some kind of deal with Iran.

Also "chaos" in Iraq (and Syria) is meant to stop China's New Silk road.

The US want to control energy-oil and gas-to keep the US$ "alive".

https://southfront.org/how-many-forces-does-united-states-have-in-middle-east-to-strike-iran/ DJ-Iran has over 80 million people-a war on land and sea/air between (only) the US and Iran most likely would need a few hundred thousend US forces ?

Iran has over 200.000 missiles-any country in the region would have to deal with that if they would allow the US to use it as a base for attack.

https://southfront.org/erdogan-iran-cannot-leave-assassination-of-soleimani-unanswered/ DJ-In name NATO is still behind the US. When it comes to real war even the UK is clear-a war with Iran is not in the interest of the UK.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-slams-russia-china-blocking-un-statement-baghdad-embassy-attack

DJ-Again the US should-now-pull back its forces from Iraq and Syria or face the consequences. Local militia are "out of control" (not only if they ever were of Iran control, PMU is part of Iraq Army and was attacked by the US) and are out for a kill.

Iran for the moment will wait and see how the US stupidity does do its damage.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/terrorist-attack-against-eurasian-integration:
Putin and Xi Jinping face tough days ahead, trying to council Iran in avoiding an excessive response that would give Washington the perfect excuse for a war against Iran.

The prospects of a region without terrorism, with a reinvigorated Shia Crescent, led by Iran at the regional level and accompanied by China and Russia at the economic (Belt and Road Initiative) and military level, offer little hope to Riyadh, Tel Aviv and Washington of being able to influence events in the region and this is likely going to be the top argument that Putin and Xi Jinping will use to try to deter any Iranian overt response.

Deciding to kill the leader of the Quds Force in Iraq proves only one thing: that the options available to Trump and his regional allies are rapidly shrinking, and that the regional trends over the next decade appear irreversible. Their only hope is for Tehran and her allies to lash out at the latest provocation, thereby justifying the regional war that would only serve to benefit Washington by slowing down regional unification under Iranian leadership.

We must remember that whenever the US finds itself in a situation where it cannot control a country or a region, its tendency is to create chaos and ultimately destroy it.

By killing General Soleimani, the US hopes to wreak havoc in the region so as to slow down or altogether scupper any prospect of integration. Fortunately, China, Russia and Iran are well aware that any conflict would not be in any of their own interests.

No drone-launched missiles will be enough to save the US from decades of foreign-policy errors and their associated horrors; nor will they be enough to extinguish the memory of a hero’s tireless struggle against imperialism and terrorism.
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Chump has always said,that he wouldn't use ground troops.....

He will bomb Iran back to the 5 century,(where they want To be)

This would make Chump ,unbeatable at the next election,

As his power base loves the fact,

American is Greatest most powerful nation on Earth,with BIG BOMBS..........

how else would he distract the people from

Impeachment....!!!!!

You can fool some of the people some of the time!!!!!!!!!!

12 Monkeys...............
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Sadly, those institutions who police "war crimes" and similar unpleasant acts, have all the power of a newborn, premature kitten! Trump's threat to "bomb cultural sites" may be illegal, but nothing will be done if he does it.

'And, yes, why would he?

Ever seen the film "Wag The Dog"? Well this time it is the tongue that is dragging the dog around.

I am no lover of the Iranian regime. But those sites are world heritage ones. This was once Persia and part of Sumaria - the birthplace of civilization! Everyone loses if they go.

The loss of life (Iranian and American) is a horror I don't want to contemplate, but it will follow this act of assasination. The only question remaining is how large that loss will be.

There is no doubt that Sulimani was, in effect, a mass murderer. Sometimes however (and you have to be really grown up to recognise this) that is the lesser evil. That is why both Bush and Obama left him there. It was not that they did not care for those who died at his hands, but because they knew with reasonable certainty, that things would be worse without him.

Trump has done several things I despise, and a few that I laud, but overall he has messed-up more than he mended in my opinion. If he handles this with real care and withdraws from the cliff edge,I will admit I was wrong about him and he is presidential after all.

But I suspect that after Iran finds its way of exacting revenge, he will strike back again and things will continue to escalate (as the advisers whom his predecessors listened to, but whom he does not, fail to haul him back from war) and I do predict war!

Obviously the USA will win hands-down! But the cost will be huge - although not to Trump himself; this is a superb distraction from impeachment and who wants to vote against a man whom cries: "Make America Great Again!" in wartime?   -   Not patriots obviously!
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Judaeism, Christianity, Hinduism, Jainism and Islam all came from the destruction of Sumar by (wait for it) global warming and sea-level rise. My religion and the Gods and Goddesses that I worship, were those that Sumar worshiped in their orthodoxy.

Anyone that destroys what is left of the worlds greatest civilization is my enemy. However, if your President was to wipe the present Iranian invaders and their Persian predecessors from the lands that once were Sumar, I would personally pray to Innana to help him.

Go for it Trump!
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Technophobe, I agree whit most you write. On top of destroying cultural heritage is a warcrime it is also not a #1 military priority-a US war with Iran will be a very major event. It can very easy get out of control.

Trying to get some info on latest developments;
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/iran-attack-alert-sent-via-us-state-dept-text-system
DJ-HT on US over 70 killed may be incorrect.

https://twitter.com/intelcrab
-US bases saw missiles coming-most troops in shelter (so no US casulties)
-Ukrain Boeing leaving Tehran may have been hit by Iran AAA (Anti-Aircraft Aritillery)

background

DJ-https://southfront.org/us-scrambled-warplanes-from-uae-air-base-for-supposed-strike-on-iran-after-missiles-hit-us-facilities-in-iraq/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iraqi-forces-to-meet-about-forming-united-front-against-us-military-report/ etc.
DJ-It look likes the US may be attacking Iran targets from UAE, Turkey (a.o.)-Iraqi forces may be preparing further attacks against US forces.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-offers-iraq-s-400-air-defense-system-to-protect-airspace/ and https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-vladimir-putin-travels-to-syria-to-meet-with-syrian-president/

DJ-Russia will try to get some grip on developments.
https://www.rt.com/news/477695-putin-turkey-erdogan-meeting/
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/fbi-faa-air-force-investigate-armies-unidentified-drones-appearing-over-3-states-night

to be updated -maybe with new posting
DJ-Putin only was a short time in Syria.

DJ;

https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13781&start=40
https://www.debka.com/iran-35-missiles-strike-us-ain-al-assad-and-irbil-bases-in-iraq-us-mid-east-troops-idf-on-top-alert/

DJ-Also UK forces at Ain-al-Assad Air base. The number of (+)80 US military KIA (killed in action) most likely is Iran propaganda.

Most likely;
-US planes were in the air after attack but US has not decided on reaction
-This Iran attack may be part of a larger Iran plan, very likely local militia will "do their own thing".
-The US is very likely to get out of Iraq-and thus Syria-move its troops to Kuwait/KSA
-Israel may seek escalation by (prevention) bombing (Hizbollah=part of Lebanon Army) targets.

DJ-I did not expect Iran to attack US bases in Iraq. I expected Iran to "wait and see" how the international reaction on the US attack on a Iran general https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/the-axis-of-resistance-announces-the-project-that-will-avenge-qassem-soleimani.html# with whom the US did work two times in an US ally-Iraq, killing also Iraqi part-of-Iraqi-army top military would work out.

Iran is still working within the Iran-deal and could use the US actions to push the EU to make up its mind. "Is the EU behind the Iran-deal-and therefor also willing to buy Iran-oil-or not ?"

Trump getting out of the Iran-deal, getting ever closer to Netanyahu/Israel is a main cause of problems.

On the background; control over global energy is control over the globe. The struggle is between Russia-Iran-China (RIC) and the US. RIC is winning-with even Saudi Arabia/Gulf States;
-looking for some kind of agreement with Iran
-trying to do deals with China

_If Iran wants a nuclear bomb they may get it from North Korea or maybe even Pakistan. They do not need to develop such a WMD themselves-Israel (over 60 nuclear bombs) will not give them room for that.

We may have seen chapter 1 of the Iran-revenge "book"-it is far from over.
The US has limited capability to protect its forces in Iraq and Syria. Their position was already very fragile, now it is becoming impossible. A build-up of (new) US forces in Iraq is unacceptable for Iraq.

The position of countries housing US airbases is a big ? Will Turkey, Qatar, UAE accept becoming a US bases for war with Iran ? I do not think so.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/b2-s-depart-whiteman-air-force-base, https://southfront.org/completely-coincidental-52-f-35a-jets-took-part-in-elephant-walk-drill-after-trump-says-us-chose-52-iranian-targets-to-strike/, https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2020/01/08/report-b-52s-deploy-to-diego-garcia-amid-iran-tensions/

DJ-The US build-up for further US military action against Iran goes on.
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DJ-I see this as a problem. If the propaganda is allowed to go unanswered, then over the days Iran is going to start believing their own garbage and think the US is weak. (From https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13781&start=40,

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/iran-attacks-us-troops-with-missile-barrages-war-is-now-upon-us-all

https://www.rt.com/news/477717-iran-kicking-us-troops-out/

https://www.moonofalabama.org/;https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/irans-missile-launch-against-two-us-bases-in-iraq-calls-trumps-bluff.html

Iran's Missile Launch Against Two U.S. Bases in Iraq Calls Trump's Bluff
Last night Iran fired 22 Qiam missiles towards two U.S. bases in Iraq. Between 1:45 and 2:15 local time (~22:00 UTC) seventeen missiles hit the Ain al Asad airbase west of Ramadi. Five missiles were aimed at Erbil airport in the northern Kurdish region of Iraq. There were no casualties.

The Swiss embassy in Tehran, which represents the U.S., was warned at least one hour before the attack happened. Around 0:00 UTC the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration issued a Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) which prohibited civil U.S. flights over Iraq, Iran, the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman.

This attack was the "open" and "proportional" response for the U.S. assassination of Major General Qassem Soleimani which Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei had promised. It will certainly not be the only response but represents the opening shot of a long and much more silent campaign to kick the U.S. out of the Middle East.

U.S. President Donald Trump, who had threatened to destroy 52 targets in Iran including cultural sites if Iran would take any revenge, seems to have understood that this attack was intentionally limited to avoid a larger war.
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The Iranian military revenge was less intensive then I had expected. But it was also a clear sign that Iran is capable and willing to openly attack U.S. bases in the larger area. The missile attack came despite Donald Trump's threats to Iran. It called his bluff.

Further reactions will depend on the U.S. reactions to the demand of the Iraqi parliament that all foreign forces leave Iraq. Should the U.S. leave Iraq peacefully all will be well. Should it insist to stay U.S. soldiers will die.

DJ-My estimate is that there is a real chance of the US attacking the launch-sites from last nights attack in Iran. If so-further escalation.

The EU,Russia, China may be able to "limit the damage" (by giving Iran guarantees and consessions). The US is most likely very limited in bases from were they can attack Iran.

(And when they do-Russia/China may jump in to offer air defense etc.)

DJ-A further US attack would be "unwise" but so was killing Soleimani. Trump shows he is able doing stupid things quite often....

https://southfront.org/u-s-political-military-leadership-is-in-deep-crisis-over-escalation-with-iran/;
Some sources claim that the US did not react because the Iranian missile strike was just a symbolic move: no US troops were allegedly killed and there are indications that US forces may have known in advance of the attack.

However, even if this is true, the entire situation (when some nation delivers missile strike on US forces and there is no response) is unprecedented. This demonstrates both the crisis within the US military political leadership and the weakening US position in the Middle East. Just recently, the Pentagon was forced to denounce the US-led coalition announcement of the troop withdrawal from Iraq.

In any case, Iran publicly slapped the United States in the face.

https://southfront.org/iranian-supreme-leader-says-missile-strikes-on-us-bases-were-only-the-first-step/,

https://southfront.org/us-coalition-allies-fleeing-iraq-as-region-braces-for-possible-iran-us-war/

DJ-No one with some brains want an US-Iran war. "Not looking weak" may be a stupid reason to further escalate...

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https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/no-u-s-military-response-to-iran-attacks

DJ-Four reasons why the US did not (yet) respond on the Iran missile strikes against US bases in Iraq yesterday;
-lack of regional support (out of fear for Iranian reaction-lack of US protection)
-lack of international support (most NATO) allies were not informed of plans to kill Soleimani
-strong warnings from Russia, China (and maybe also Pakistan, Muslim-world-a war against Iran would be seen as a "new western crusade against Islam")
-Fear of the US itself, Iran may bring down most missiles (like the US/UK/France FUKUS strike against Syria)

Outcome on the longer term;

-NATO split up in CanEur and US
-US losing (all) credebility in Middle East North Africa (MENA)

https://twitter.com/intelcrab, / https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1215006427179143168
First B52ś on Diego Garcia

DJ-If the US wants further attacks on Iran they may send bombers from the UK ? Indian Ocean ? The US is very limited in what it can do. Pulling back the (6000 US some NATO, contractors) forces out of Iraq, Syria may be hard to avoid.

https://twitter.com/IntelTweet/status/1215103416466399232;
Iraqi Shiite militia spokesman: "I assure you, brothers, that the response of the resistance factions will be very harsh and the coming days will be full of surprises."

Some more links;
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/477759-iran-missiles-subdued-us-strike/

https://www.rt.com/news/477779-state-department-sanctions-india-s400/

https://www.rt.com/business/477772-turkstream-national-energy-security-matter/

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/477756-ukrainian-plane-crash-questions-iran/

https://www.rt.com/usa/477762-general-iran-strikes-intended-kill/

https://www.rt.com/news/477773-satellite-iran-attack-damage/

DJ-The US goes on telling countries like Turkey, India they can not buy weapons were they want. The US goes on telling Turkey, Germany they can not buy energy were they want. (The EU should buy US LNG at double the cost of Russian/Arab/Iran energy)

Over 70 Canadians died in the Tehran planecrash yesterday.

Iran did warn US before attacking US bases in Iraq.
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Enjoy the silence, storm is on its way....

https://www.debka.com/mivzak/irans-attack-on-us-bases-in-iraq-is-just-the-start// https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/harsher-revenge-revolutionary-guards-commander-vows-it-s-not-over-after-iranian-missile-strikes-on-us-forces-in-iraq

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/iran-source-video-of-missile-hitting-ukraine-plane-over-tehran and
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/pentagon-accuses-iran-of-shooting-down-a-ukrainian-plane-but-its-evidence-is-flimsy.html
(DJ-Since the passengers came from Canada, Sweden, UK, Germany-the US hopes more support for their agression)

https://www.rt.com/news/477780-pakistan-peace-war-iran-us/

DJ-When I am correct the US did not bomb/attack Iran because they were not able to do so-not because they did not want to do it.

From https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377:
REALLY HARDCORE ALLEGED INJURED US SOLDIERS UPDATE - INCLUDING US CENSORSHIP

The IRGC is adamant: NONE of their missiles was intercepted by the US. They all precisely hit their targets.

Compare it with the US version: no casualties, and the bases sustained “only minimal damage.”

Al Mayadeen TV has reported that the Americans PREVENTED IRAQI SOLDIERS AND INTEL FORCES FROM APPROACHING THE TARGETED AIR BASE.

Iraqi lawmaker Naim al-Aboudi, of the Fatah (Conquest) alliance, told Al Mayadeen that THE AMERICAN-RUN SECTION OF AIN AL-ASSAD HAD BEEN COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED BY THE IRANIAN MISSILE STRIKE.

Another Iraqi lawmaker, Hassan Salem, of the al-Sadiqoun bloc, told the Al Forat TV network, that Iran's missile attack was LIKE AN EARTHQUAKE ON the US base and, YES, did cause fatalities.

Once again: he also confirmed that the bodies of the slain American personnel HAD BEEN FLOWN TO TEL AVIV.

DJ-In Iraq Shia-militia will keep pushing US forces-the US will keep blaming Iran for it. Netanyahu wants war with Iran (like Trump facing impeachement). https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/rockets-reportedly-hit-near-us-base-north-baghdad-again:
Just hours ago it was reported that 90% of American advisors withdraw from Balad Air Force Base in Salah al-Din Governorate, including staff of Lockheed Martin, which specialize in operating F-16s, after recent threats in Iraq.
As a reminder, contrary to the carefully built narrative that the US and Iran have become nothing short of BFFs, the risk for re-escalation remains huge. As Stratfor noted this week, Iraq, in particular, could present a theater for action, as Iranian-allied Iraqi militias have also been galvanized by the recent U.S. strikes and likely will be keen to seek retribution.

If an attack by those militias kills a U.S. soldier or contractor in Iraq or Syria, the risks of escalation to a direct military exchange between the United States and Iran would again climb. After all, the United States will hold Iran responsible for the actions of some of its allied militias, especially the mostly Shiite Popular Mobilization Forces in Iraq.

As such, contrary to the desires of bullish daytraders, the existence of these triggers for potential escalation and the atmosphere of tension that will linger between the two adversaries keeps the long-term risk of a military confrontation alive, even if their current face-off goes no further.

(DJ-Most likely-Russia, China, will be talking with Iran on weapon transfers/port facilities, airbases etc. The 3-country-navy drill ended just before the US murdered Soleimani. Russia could use-for a short while-Iran air base for actions in Syria. China will be interested in "weapons-for-oil". Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline speed up ?)

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/iraq-reopens-negotiations-purchase-russian-s-300-air-defense-systems

https://southfront.org/united-states-war-with-iran-simulated/
The United States and Iran are balancing on the edge of a fully-fledged open military conflict, with many claiming that President Donald Trump had to respond militarily to the Iranian retaliatory missile strike on US military bases in Iraq. However, they have forgotten that in 2002 the Pentagon already ran a colossal wargame designed to simulate a war with Iran – and the US lost heavily.
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DJ Good video describing what the US did: killing a general of a country they are not at war with in a country that is an ally. The general killed was supposed to visit the PM of that allied country. Not only did the US kill that general-but also several high ranking ALLIED officers.
The US is not at war still with Iran, Iraqis an ally !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KwWa4J7fi4

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/powerful-blasts-rock-syria-iraq-border-after-warplanes-strike-iranian-forces/DJ-Most likely Israel bombed another weapons-transport on the Iraq-Syria border.

https://southfront.org/rocket-lands-near-base-housing-u-s-troops-in-northern-iraq/ DJ-Most likely local militia shooting at an US base.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/477875-iran-plane-crash-media-narrative/
DJ-Propaganda war on the Ukrainian Boeing 737-800 crash near Tehran-Iran. For the moment it is just as likely a US drone brought down the plane as the claim Iran AAA did it. No proof. What the US does not want is further questions on the safety of Boeing 737-the plane was 3,5 years old. If there are safetyconcers on this plane as well it would be the end for Boeing-a main US defense manufacturer.

https://sputniknews.com/analysis/202001101077990840-cool-heads-prevailed-in-us--iran-but-new-strikes-may-ignite-full-scale-retaliation-ops---observers/

DJ-What can deescalate the Middle East now ? Low profile of US/NATO forces in Iraq/Syria, no further Israel airstrikes. Very limited build up of US forces in Kuwait/KSA and a whole lot of diplomacy involving also Turkey, Russia, China, Pakistan.

Both Iran and the US know a major war will bring very severe damage to both and the region.

The US can offer lifting of (some) sanctions when Iran "limits its activity".

https://ejmagnier.com/2020/01/09/a-new-middle-east-made-in-iran-is-about-to-be-born/?fbclid=IwAR3-8XCsofni03XFil6i7xQDKo0Sq66WfH8S-NIYDN87UdftkDgiPusXb6w;
Trump is doing everything possible to undermine and degrade US hegemony in the world. He doesn’t need any help in this endeavour, but his advisors and cabinet members share his talent for mismanaging foreign policy and national security affairs. With this bad advice US relations around the world, and particularly in the Middle East, have been run as if by a businessman, used to negotiating and intimidating with little subtlety and altogether lacking diplomatic skills.

(DJ-The get cynical-what is the worst Trump can do ? He is likely to do it.)

https://theduran.com/soleimanis-successor-is-failing/
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Some background;

https://wearechange.org/obama-ordered-cia-to-train-isis-jihadists-declassified-documents/?fbclid=IwAR0UOVaJ08Xt9OUxYYprLJz2yfq6lE_KtGz_qCSJ10vYYhfnppBMjiZ7Lx0

https://www.globalresearch.ca/putin-hour/5699822

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/risk-nuclear-war-growing

LYIN'N CHEATIN', BABE - THAT'S MY THANG

Malignant manatee Consul Pompeus "We Lied, We Cheated, We Stole" Minimus, now swearing an Iranian missile downed the Ukrainian jet, is the same gangster who was fed concocted intel to convince Trump to assassinate Soleimani.

Massive psyops in effect all across the West - to deflect from the massive humiliation to the "greatest military in the history of the galaxy" and their "beautiful weapons" incapable of intercepting even a beer can.
From https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377

DJ-Both embedded press and politicians around "the west" copying the same blah-blah.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/plane-was-designed-clowns-shocking-boeing-emails-reveal-contempt-management-faa DJ-Goes for more Boeing 737's ?

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pompeo-allegedly-convinced-trump-to-assassinate-soleimani/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iraqi-pm-asks-us-to-begin-withdrawal-process-in-iraq/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/natos-missile-defense-system-in-romania-monitored-irans-attack-sec-gen/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/unknown-warplanes-targeted-iranian-forces-in-syria-from-iraq-media/
(DJ-US forces keep attacking Iran forces in Iraq)
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https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/unknown-warplanes-targeted-iranian-forces-in-syria-from-iraq-media/,
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/update-on-the-ukrainian-plane-incident-near-tehran.html,
https://www.rt.com/news/477996-rouhani-identify-prosecute-plane/,
https://southfront.org/whats-behind-boeing-crash-in-iran/
(This article was prior to Iran admits shooting down the Ukrainian Boeing 737-800)

https://www.rt.com/news/477989-sultan-oman-qaboos-said-dies/

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/in-iraq-the-us-is-again-an-occupation-force-as-it-rejects-to-leave-as-demanded.html;
Shorter Pompeo: "Our troops will stay and you better do what we say."

A foreign force that is asked to leave a country and does not do so is an occupation force. It must and will be opposed.

The murder of the 31 security forces and the assassination of al-Mahandes have still not been avenged. The PMU will do their moral duty and fight the foreign occupation forces until they leave.
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The U.S. will need to pay better Iraqi 'activists' if it wants them to demand what Donald Trump wishes.

As the Iraqi Prime Minister explained (also here):

After my return from China, Trump called me and asked me to cancel the agreement, so I still refused, and he threatened me with massive demonstrations that would topple me. Indeed, the demonstrations started and then Trump called, threatening to escalate in the event I did not cooperate and do as he asked…
Iraq is again negotiating with Russia to acquire S-300 air defense systems. It will need them as the U.S. will have to leave and leave it will. The only choice for its soldiers is between leaving horizontally or vertically, dead or alive.

https://www.debka.com/irans-attack-on-us-airbase-in-iraq-finds-israel-vulnerable-to-same-kind-of-ballistic-missile-strike/

DJ-Iran has demonstrated it is willing to attack ANY power it considers a risk in the region. For the first time the US did not react in a military way-because they could not do so (without paying a very high price for it-Iran blocking strait of Hormuz would damage the west that much the US did not want to risk it.)
The US will have to leave Syria, Iraq (Afghanistan) and with that loose some control over the global energy market (and petro-dollar).
When the US does not leave Iraq, Iraq may ask other countries for the moment to increase their forces (to push the US out-not by war but making the US unable to do much-electronic warfare could stop US cars and communication etc.)

Iran will have to pay compensation for the Ukrainian plane victims-but still the Russia-Iran-China coalition did get more control over the Middle East.
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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/iranian-armed-forces-say-they-inadvertently-shot-down-the-ukrainian-plane.html, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iran-arrests-british-ambassador-over-inciting-and-directing-anti-govt-protests/ and https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iranian-forces-remain-on-high-alert-for-potential-us-attack-report/

DJ-In Iran public unrest after Iran admits shooting down Ukrainian Boeing 737-800. Part of the public unrest may be "foreign organized". Since the unrest in part is caused by US economic sanctions others should do more to keep the Iran-economy going. (DJ-Also political reforms may be needed-but there is a big gap between the US sponsored MEK-that want a return of the Sjah and most Iranians.)

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkish-russian-sponsored-ceasefires-begin-in-libya-and-syria/

https://www.rt.com/news/478025-putin-merkel-iran-nuclear-deal/ and https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-merkel-urge-all-parties-back-iran-deal-must-be-preserved-all-means
DJ-The EU seem to see the Iran-deal as a way to de-escalate. Since the US broke that deal it should be the EU to make the Iran-deal work (by buying Iranian oil). The lack of a clear choice by the EU is one of the problems for the Iran-crisis.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/if-us-does-itll-lose-iraq-forever-trump-threatened-cut-baghdads-access-its-ny-fed-cash
DJ-By using the US$ as a weapon more and more countries drop the US$.
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DJ-Some questions on was Iran behind the downing of the Ukrainian Boeing 737-800 ?

From https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377;

VERY IMPORTANT UKRO-BOEING UPDATE

It’s quite depressing to see that a lot of readers of this global forum don't have a f*****g clue on what investigative journalism is all about.

I am NOT convinced about the simplistic, official - Iranian – story on the ”human error” re: the tragedy of the Ukro-Boeing. I am interested in WHAT INDUCED THAT HUMAN ERROR. That’s where the story does not hold. So I’ll keep digging.

The IRGC did ask for a “no fly zone”. It was denied. Why? The Rouhani government owes everyone an explanation.

The flight data of the Ukro-Boeing was abruptly cut off while it was climbing.

Flight data includes crucial TRANSPONDER signals.

So the plane was off course, with NO transponder, and trying to return to the airport – thus the U-turn maneuver by the pilot.

In this case, it is easy to understand why the flight was mis-identified.

What did the Ukrainians say about this? They said the plane had just been under maintenance.

So “something” might have been done in maintenance to allow or cause the flight data to be abruptly cut off. By whom – and under whose orders? Why the Ukrainians are not being investigated?

Then there’s the cell phone video.

Why the hell would someone be filming the sky in the middle of the night with his smart phone?

Are we expected to believe that one of the soldiers at the Iranian launch site really was playing with a smart phone instead of manning his station?

And how did the US and other usual suspects know, within MINUTES, that a missile had hit the Ukro-Boeing?

These are just a few extra questions.

And I’m not even wading into the “Israel did it” swamp.

Veterans Today has an explosive report stating, outright, that the whole thing was due to an automation or software error, not human.

Facebook won't allow me to show the link. Orwellian tactics. Find it for yourselves, it's easy.

Veterans Today goes for the jugular:

“This was an Israeli cyber terrorist attack that triggered Russian-made Iranian anti-aircraft missile system to misfire against a friendly civilian target by a Unit 8200 backdoor into the “Friend or Foe” ID code conduited to Israel via Russian technology relations.”

This ongoing investigation is FAR from over.

(DJ-I seem not to be able to put links to Veterans Today ???? On their site more-new-info)

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/was-the-shootdown-of-the-ukrainian-airplane-near-tehran-really-a-mistake.html
Basicly Iran considered itself at war with the US-expected attacks, did not want to show fear so civil aviation went on. The Thor-missile was not part of a network-the operator could not get radiocontact with an HQ to find out if it could be a civil flight. (DJ-In my view he should not have fired the missile-shooting down a civil flight would do more damage than a cruise missile would-under these circumstances I-DJ-disagree with MoA)

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ron-paul-us-wants-own-iran-it-did-when-shah-was-power
DJ-The US needs to control global energy to remain the only superpower-but it is getting much to expensive.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/atoms-peace-vs-atoms-war-only-fix-iran-us-relations Over 70 years ago the idea came up of Iran going for nuclear energy.

https://www.debka.com/iran-hizballah-gird-up-for-guerilla-rocket-attacks-on-us-forces-in-iraq-rockets-against-israel/, https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/heres-why-trump-tipped-israel-soleimani-strike-they-helped-intel

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/downing-ps-752-already-being-used-smear-mh-17-skeptics;
Oddly enough, Ukrainian International Airlines is partly owned by the infamous Ukrainian-Israeli oligarch, politician and energy tycoon Igor Kolomoisky, who was notably one of the biggest financiers of the anti-Russian, pro-EU coup d’etat which overthrew the democratically elected government of Viktor Yanukovych in 2014.

Kolomoisky is also a principal backer of current Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky whose dubious phone call with Trump resulted in the 45th U.S. president’s impeachment last month.

In another astounding coincidence, Kolomoisky’s Privat Group is believed to control Burisma Holdings, the Cypress-based company whose executive board 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden’s son Hunter was appointed to following the Maidan junta.

The former Vice President admitted that he bribed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor who was looking into his son’s corruption by threatening to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees.
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From the get-go, the Obama administration was adamant that the missile which shot down the Boeing 777 came from separatist rebel territory.

However, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad denounced the charges brought against the Russian and Ukrainian nationals indicted in the NATO-led investigation, dismissing the entire probe as a politically motivated effort predetermined to scapegoat Moscow and exclude Malaysian participation in the inquiry from the very beginning.

Mohamad is featured in the excellent documentary MH17: Call for Justice made by a team of independent journalists which contests the NATO-scripted narrative and reveals that the Buk missile was more likely launched from Ukrainian Army-controlled territory than the DPR. One of Kolomoisky’s hired guns could also have been responsible.

Shamefully, Iran’s admission of guilt in the PS752 downing is already being used by establishment propagandists to discredit skeptics and conflated with similar contested past events like MH17 in order to intimidate dissenting voices from speaking up in the future.

DJ-The MH17 dossier is used by the US (etc) to keep a gap between Russia and the EU.
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https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-new-missile-strikes-reported-at-iraqi-military-base-hosting-us-forces/,https://southfront.org/another-base-hosting-us-troops-in-iraq-comes-under-rocket-attack/
DJ-The pressure to push out US forces out of Iraq will grow https://iraq.liveuamap.com/en/2020/14-january-muqtada-alsadr-from-iran-calls-for-millionstrongprotest to condemn "the US presence and its violations," in Iraq. Says the move will be followed by other popular, political and parliamentary moves to protect "Iraq's dignity and sovereignty."

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/the-long-planned-us-assassinations-in-iraq-will-increase-the-political-chaos.html

On the Iran-deal https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/trumps-eu-poodles-germany-britain-and-france-obey-his-order-to-kill-the-nuclear-deal-with-iran.html DJ If the EU wanted to save the Iran-deal they should have done much more much faster.

DJ-Trump may get his way in the sense that there may come another Iran-deal than the Obama-deal, most likely worse for the US and Israel.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/us-imposes-additional-sanctions-on-north-korea
DJ-One of the recent lessons from history is that deals do not work when one party dumps deals like it is not the result of hard work, long talks and a lot of compromise.

The US keeps forgetting they are no longer "the only boss". Russia and China now will make their own deals without the US and-if the EU does not wake up-without the EU. Asia has over 4 billion people-more than halve the global population, most of the natural resources-land linked.

US (political) sanctions will damage the US more than the countries that are meant to be sanctioned. (For instance the EU stopped exporting fruit, vegetables to Russia after Crimea-now Russia grows those products themselves or imports them from Turkey etc. EU farmers have to change their products and lost a major market.)

A new China-US trade deal will be-at best-very limited. China wants to be treated as equal with the US, respected-the Trump government seems to be unable to understand that.
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https://www.debka.com/us-forces-withdraw-from-nato-march-drill-in-norway-due-to-mid-east-tension/;
DEBKAfile’s military sources report that US planners, by withdrawing from the NATO exercise scheduled for March, are clearly preparing for a drawn-out engagement with Iran and its allied Iraqi militias, which are bent on extended revenge for the assassinations by the US of leading general Qassem Soleimani and senior Iraqi militia commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis. Most of the forthcoming clashes are expected by intelligence sources to be concentrated in Iraq, with local militias staging guerrilla operations against US forces and bases.

The stream of military equipment and weaponry from Iran to Iraq has accelerated in the last few days. Tons of IED roadside bombs are included in the consignments.

https://www.debka.com/mivzak/putin-to-cut-short-his-israel-visit-new-government-in-moscow/,


https://www.debka.com/mivzak/at-least-3-pro-iranian-militiamen-reported-killed-in-t-4-raid/;
A missile attack on Tuesday night, attributed by Syrian officials to Israel, is said to have killed at least three pro-Iranian militiamen at the T-4 air base outside Homs. It reportedly targeted an Iranian arms depot and another building. Soon after the attack, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said he had held a productive conversation with PM Binyamin Netanyahu about “developments in the region.”

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2020/16-january-reports-of-unidentified-aircraft-bombing-the-locationsof the Iranian militia in the vicinity of Albukamal city east of Deir Ezzor, and some reports that the bombing targeted trucks parked at the Albukamal border crossing

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-allegedly-tried-and-failed-to-kill-irgc-commander-in-yemen/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iran-may-purchase-chinas-j-10-fighter-jet-to-boost-air-force-report/;
BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:30 A.M.) – The Iranian Ministry of Defense is mulling the purchase of China’s J-10 multi-role fighter jet, the Sina News Agency reported on Wednesday.

According to the Sina report, Qatar has provided Iran with $3 billion (U.S.) in financial assistance after the accidental downing of the Ukrainian airliner by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).

The report said Iran will give the families of the victims approximately $1.5 billion, which is roughly $850,000/victim.

The remaining sum from the financial assistance will be reportedly used to boost Iran’s air force, as many of their aircraft are outdated.
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The J-10, which is one of China’s domestically-made fighter jets, and Russia’s S-30 are being seriously considered to replace their aging aircraft.

“The J-10C is a typical multi-purpose fighter and can be replaced at the same time. These models help to simplify logistics. At the same time, the Russian Su-30 fighter is also a potential purchase target. The Su-30 fighter has a large range and a large amount of ammunition, which can just replace the F14 heavy fighter,” they added.

DJ-With Moqtada al Sadr getting his over 100.000 men army together, Iran sending reinforcements to Iraq, a new Iraq war is on its way. That war will effect the Syria-war. When it crosses the Iran border it will also cross the Israel border.

More and more this war becomes a war of "the west" against the Arab/Muslim world. (With Trump/Netanyahu as its leaders).

Since SW Asia is vital for Russia and China they will do everything they can to get more control.
(DJ-Maybe government-changes in Russia should be seen as the formation of a war-cabinet. The only way to avoid that war would be talks-since the EU faillure to play a serious role there is limited capability for mediation/talks.)

A likely scenario will be a major strike
-US attacking pro-Iran forces
or
-pro-Iran forces attacking NATO forces
both parties are preparing for such strikes.
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Iran quickly announced that it no longer respected the 5+1 agreement, while pro-Iranian Iraqi MPs demanded the departure of US troops from their country. Contrary to what the Western media were led to believe, these two decisions were not competitive bids, but offers of peace. The 5+1 agreement no longer exists since the US withdrawal. Iran acknowledged this after having tried in vain to save it. The departure of US troops not only from Iraq, but from the entire Middle East is a commitment made by Donald Trump during his presidential campaign. He could not make it come true given the opposition of his administration. Iran sided with him.
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It goes without saying that the US will not give up anything without compensation. Its military withdrawal will only be done in coordination with the Iranian military withdrawal. General Qassem Soleimani embodied precisely the Iranian military deployment. It is this double withdrawal that is currently being negotiated. We are already seeing a US withdrawal from Syria and Iraq to Kuwait. The episode of the letter sent, then cancelled, by General William Sheely III announcing the departure of US troops from Iraq is proof that these negotiations are indeed underway.


https://www.globalresearch.ca/did-trump-just-give-middle-east-china-russia/5700660

Chinese involvement with Iraqi oil development and other infrastructure projects, though large, was significantly disrupted by the ISIS occupation of some one third of Iraqi territory. In September, 2019 Washington demanded that Iraq pay for completion of key infrastructure projects destroyed by the ISIS war– a war where Washington as well as Ankara, Israel and Saudi Arabia played the key hidden role—by giving the US government 50% of Iraqi oil revenues, an outrageous demand to put it politely.
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It was only a matter of days after the Beijing talks of Prime Minister Abdul-Mahdi that nationwide protests against Iraqi government corruption and economic policies broke out, led by opposition cries that Abdul-Mahdi resign. Reuters witnessed snipers carefully fanning the violent protest firing on the protesters giving the impression of government repression much as the CIA did in Maidan in Kiev in February 2014 or in Cairo in 2011.

There is now strong evidence that the China talks and the timing of the spontaneous October 2019 protests against the Abdul-Mahdi government were connected. The Trump Administration is the link.
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Iran’s Vice President, Eshaq Jahangiri has announced that Iran signed a contract with China to implement a project to electrify the main 900 kilometer railway connecting Tehran to the north-eastern city of Mashhad near the border to Turkmenistan and to Afghanistan. Jahangiri added that there are also plans to establish a Tehran-Qom-Isfahan high-speed train line and to extend this up to the north-west through Tabriz. OilPrice notes, “Tabriz, home to a number of key sites relating to oil, gas, and petrochemicals, and the starting point for the Tabriz-Ankara gas pipeline, will be a pivot point of the 2,300 kilometre New Silk Road that links Urumqi (the capital of China’s western Xinjiang Province) to Tehran, and connecting Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan along the way, and then via Turkey into Europe. Once the plans for this are making substantial progress then China will extend the transport links into Iraq to the West.”

Additionally, according to Iraq’s Electricity Minister Louay al-Khateeb, “China is our primary option as a strategic partner in the long run…We started with a US$10 billion financial framework for a limited quantity of oil to finance some infrastructure projects…[but] Chinese funding tends to increase with the growing Iraqi oil production.” That is, the more Iraqi oil China extracts the more Iraqi projects it can finance. Today Iraq is dependent on Iran for gas to serve its electric generators owing to lack of gas infrastructure. China says it will change that.

Further the oil industry source states that Russia and China are quietly preparing the ground to relaunch the Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline from Iran’s huge Persian Gulf South Pars gas field it shares with Qatar. A US-backed proxy war began against Syria’s Bashar al-Assad in 2011 just after he signed a deal with Iran and Iraq to build the pipeline, rejecting an earlier Qatar proposal for an alternative route. Turkey and Saudi Arabia and Qatar poured billions of covert funds to finance terrorist groups such as Al Qaeda and later ISIS in a vain effort to topple Assad.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-continues-war-buildup-against-iran/5700928
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