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Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk

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    Posted: May 14 2007 at 2:58pm
here is a youtube video i found that relates to the pandemic threat.please note,the youtube description has the word "hoax" in it.after viewing the videos (2 parts) i see no hoax about this.please view this video.it is very sobering,and in my opinion,downright frightening.
note the human element involved,and note how difficult (impossible) the situation is to contain.
by the way,its me "nz preper" i had to log in under a new account (what the hell ??) but,hi guys & gals,im still here,and i visit a dozen times a day.......
keep preppin guys & gals !!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeL3pM8L8DA


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y1YVN2L1pk
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Don't see the 'hoax' factor either. Video seems to be pretty informative, showing possible mutation pathways.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sandman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2007 at 5:16pm
i agree fictionwriter,i havent a clue why the "hoax" mention is in the title on youtube (?)
its a sobering peice yes ?
it conveys to me clearly the hopelessness of the potential situation (sorry guys & gals,but it does)
note the scene where the bus carrying the guy,passes on the stretch of road,as the 3 medi-vehicles travel to the village ?.............its that easy.........
(for this thing to go ballistic)
the lie/omission by the elderly woman is thought provoking as it serves as an insight into everyones desire to protect there own,and yet,raises the question:what could the med workers have done regardless ?......the guy has already left the village.the end scene makes me wanna weep.sorr folks,but it does.    
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By coincidence,  Donald Rumsfeld, the former US Secretary of
War,  owns substantial stock in the company that makes Tamiflu,
the only current flu vaccine.  He made millions of US$ in profit.

But let me remind you,  it is only a coincidence.
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Holy crap...does anyone have a Xanax handy???
I do everything my Rice Crispies tell me to....
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"  Holy crap...does anyone have a Xanax handy??? "

Maybe you should prescribe...................


http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/newsmakers/fortune_rumsfeld/#cooliris

Again,   I am sure it is just dumb coincidence.

Real dumb.
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Sandman is there anything else you can share with those of us who cannot view the video because of our aged computers or on dial up. Thanks.
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Excellent video! No reason for it to be a hoax. the only thing I can think of is the person who posted the video either A. doesn't want a panic or B. is a very innocent person who actually thinks this could happen. I'm going shopping this week! Prep on gang.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sandman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2007 at 8:10pm
hi annie,the video is a 2 part segment of 8 minutes each part.it chronicles a young asian man,who is travelling home after a week at work.his village is many miles away,so he is walking,and using public transport.he arrives in his village,and is greeted by friends & family.a neighbour is bleeding/preparing a chicken for a meal close-by.the video is spliced with factual scientific observations,and details about h5n1.the girl who is slaughtering the chicken is seen to have minute particles of h5n1 go into her nasal passages (we see micro organsims reacting,and a voiceover gives us details of what is occuring) according to the story being told,this woman is indeed patient zero.
mutation has occured (according to the story)    
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the video then goes on to depict the woman becoming sick,and the effect this has on other surrounding villagers.voiceover tells us that many members of her family,and neighbours now carry the virus,and within days they will be ill.
part 2 of the video details more scientific facts,and tells the story of the medical personell who have arrived in the village to deal with the problem as best they can.

..........but all too late.the young man featured throughout the video has already left the village,returning to his place of work.the video then shows the man walking down a crowded street,and sneezing/coughing.a micro-camera shows particles going into new victims noses etc......scary stuff.   
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the video ends with "news footage" taken from around the globe,as the pandemic kicks off.

if you can view this video,i reccomend you do so.

take care guys & gals,prep on.
   
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The person who posted the video seems to be something of a conspiracy nut, based on his comments to his own posting...calling H5N1 a manmade virus, blaming the pharmaceutical companies for the hype as a way to increase their profits, and making a comparison to another so called man-made virus...AIDS.
 
Ok, gimme a break here! That's why he labeled it a hoax? Cause he thinks it's a man-made problem? Come on...he discounts any postings that say otherwise.
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i didnt check the posters comments.
im only interested in the video.

if he thinks that h5n1 is a manmade virus,then chances are,he believes the world is flat,hiv is a manmade virus,elvis is alive,and other such nonsense also.

the video is the important bit.it seems to be a segment from a documentary.the narrator is clearly british,and the scientific info contained in the video is currently accurate.(until proved otherwise)

the video is well worth checking out.
please do

   
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diode:the whole "donald rumsfeld/tamiflu" connection
has already been beaten to death on this forum months ago.

it is currently observed by medical proffessionals who have dealt with h5n1 first hand,that tamiflu is no longer effective as treatment against h5n1,or at the very least,its effectiveness has dimminished.

somebody please correct me,if tamiflu is indeed still effective,but regardless of the millions of dollars that rumsfeld has made offa tamiflu,the money would be of little good in a pandemic situation,as we are ALL on a level playingfield now. (as i understand tamiflu to be.......useless) somebody tell me im wrong please (please ?)   
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I hope you are I bought enough for my whole family!!!!!
WHAT TO DO????
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dannykelly:if you have bought enough for your whole fmily,then you need to be commended.
such devotion to ones loved ones can only be good.
i wish you well.
if you have tamiflu,then you indeed have an advantage over someone who doesnt.
remember friends,the situation will be DESPERATE when you discover that one of your children has symptoms.

use your imagination folks,think outside the square,
and plan "outside" the norm.you'll surely be better off for it.
be well friends,god bless.   
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I read recently, and no, i can't remember the article off-hand, that the strain of AI in Indonesia or China was showing some resistance to Tamiflu.  Combine that with the suicidal tendencies the drug brings out in teens...i'm unsure about the value of the drug.
 
Maybe one of the docs on this forum can find the article? I'm pretty sure it was a mainstream piece, but it might have been in one of the journals
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