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KatDoe67
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I'm studying vegan cookbooks to learn more about baking without eggs. Liquid sweetners, mashed fruit, soy flour, dehydrated potatoes and oatmeal all work as binders. 1/4 cup binder and 1/2 teas baking powder help to replace an egg. |
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Dont forget to order candles from QVC,,,,BATT OPERATED. THEY BURN 2 TO 3 WEEKS ON ONE SET OF BATTERIES.
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Purchased
24 cans evaporated milk
12 cans green beans
12 cans carrots
12 cans corn
12 can saurkraut
large coffee
canned 10 qts beef chunks
canned 7 qts potatoes
canned 2 qts hamburger Edited by arklatex - April 06 2006 at 6:16pm |
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How do yu can the meats and do they have to be refrigerated??
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Hi Diana Do you by any chance have the number or item number for QVC. I would like to try those battery operated candles. Have you tried your yet? How do you like them?
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55 gal. water barrel, 3 bottles juice, 20 lbs kitty litter, 18 lbs cat food, 15 cans of fruit, veggies, milk, 1 can deviled ham, 1 can deviled chicken.
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I feel stupid asking this, but how do you print things off this site without everything having a black background?
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Therese, I highlight the text, paste into a word document, and then print.
ETA: I cahnge the font colar & size, too. Edited by phoenixrising - April 06 2006 at 9:37pm |
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Hydrangea
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Prepping was put on hold for over a week... had to deal with a sick
kitty and then I got a charming stomach virus. Having assorted chicken
soups, sports drinks, tummy meds and other goodies in my emergency
pantry was a life saver.
Yesterday I bought: 2 cases of canned green beans 2 cases of canned corn Canned peas and potatoes Giant jar of peanut butter Large container of raisins 10 cans of chunk ham and chunk chicken Assorted canned pastas with meat Canned Vienna sausages, pork barbeque, chicken and dumplings, tamales, chili, Spam Assorted sugar-free drink mixes, like lemonade, that can be mixed with water At this point I need to stop shopping, inventory what I have, and see if I've reached my first goal of 3 months' worth of supplies yet. Then I can move on to the next 3 months. I also priced empty 5 gallon water containers. For me these smaller containers would be easier to deal with than the larger sizes. |
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Just finished cleaning weapons. Three hours. Total break down detailed cleaning.
Shopped for Solar Flood lights. Have not purchased yet. Worked late today so thats it. |
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As the Dark Horse Approaches.
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After you can meat it does not have to be refrigerated until it is opened.
Instructions for canning meat can be found in the Ball Canning Book ( the canners bible) it can be purchased for $6-7 at Walmart or book store.
I can purchase roast on sale for $1.89 lb- a pint jar = pound
Quart jar=two pounds of meat.
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How do you know how to measure your preps? In other words, I have been buying stuff for the last month, but how do you know when you have 3 mos worth?
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arklatex-Thank you! I think I want to try that, and of course, I always 'need' to go to WalMart!!-k
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therese, everyone probably has a different way of determining how much. I just count how much I am buying and estimate how many meals it would make.
If you are buying bulk items, there are food calculators available. www.standeyo.com has several available for free in the preparedness section of the website. He has the Mormon food calculator as well as a couple of versions of his own and maybe another as well. I haven't used the others, but with the Mormon calculator, you enter the number of adults and children, then the length of time and it gives you a list of items to buy. The downside is that it is primarily bulk, long term storage stuff and assumes that you will be cooking from scratch. The upside is that by buying that way, you can get a lot more than by buying processed can goods. Most of us don't have much experience cooking from scratch though.
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Theresa .... below is a note I found in the'Food' thread under Priority Preparations. There are other calculators mentioned on that thread, but this sure does seem to be the best. It's an 'excel' sheet and all you do is plug is your family#'s and how many months you want to store for and everything just pops into the columns on the sheet! You can also cut/paste to add items they don't include that you want to have on hand for your family. Every time I go shopping, now I bring my receipt to the comp. and then update my sheet. (I've also been deducting if we remove something from the prep. stock items) It's actually a little overwhelming when you see just how may pounds you really need to be stocking or how many cans, etc! I was way off in my own calculations. Hope it helps! -k Originally posted by marjo:
My favorite tool (need MS Excel) is a Food Storage Planner that can be downloaded for free (in US and Metric versions) - it is more than just food and is completely customizable (not "protected") for your family size, # of months for storage, etc. The calculations are done automatically making it easy to inventory, shop and track needs. |
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Also look for a pdf called "Food Storage Cooking School" I think, if you are buying a lot of more expensive canned goods.
I'm kinda poor and actually like whole grains and know how to cook from scratch so I can basically just figure I need 1 pound of dried foods a day for me and 2 pounds for my husband, 1 1/2 for my son, and 1/2 for my dog. A pound of DRIED food is about 1,600 calories. So I need about 5 pounds a day of dried foods and supplent with a small amount of canned veggies, fruits, tuna etc,
I've stopped stockpiling foods that hubby will like, as I cannot afford to stockpile them and they are more perishable. I'm stockpiling as much dried food as me, son and puppy can rotate without spoilage and will rest at that :-0 If something bad happens hubby will eat it or he wont :-0 Since he eats a LOT, the less he eats the better :-)
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Another onr of my cats is at the vets, dental work (she's hurting) and blood panel. Getting my oven repaired today, finally!
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I cleaned out kitchen cupboards....I was amazed on what I forgot was in the back of some of my deeper cupboards. More room for preps....yeah! Went to Costco...... 30 rolls toilet paper - I now have a year supply...no more tp to buy for me.
15 rolls paper towels
2 large peanut butter
1 lg. pkg buttermilk pancake mix
2 large Jelly
2 large syrup
Canned Chicken
100 count tampax
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I ordered 5gallon pails and Gamma lids (31), Mylar bags, silica gel dessiccants. I have a lot of long term storage to do. I read that you can store dry items like rice, wheat, pasta and beans for 10 or more years if done properly.
The most complete info on food storage: Prudent food storage link http://www.resistbirdflu.com/emergency_food.htm |
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I have done absolutely nothing since last weekend. I am hoping to get some more preps on Wednesday. The family has been sick with the flu this week so it has really slowed down my preps.
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How much rice, flour, sugar, salt, powdered milk, canned meat, canned fruit and vegetables, yeast, oil .would a adult need per month and per year.
I was not really concerned about tally it up as I just figured I will buy as much as I can afford, but now I think I should have some guildelines |
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Today I bought 3-55gal. drumbs 10- 15 gal. drumbs all can be used for gasoline water or prep storage. I bought several boxes of crackers catsup mustard and cookies. Found a place on our property where I would put out door porta pottie.
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Deanna, check out the LDS www.providentliving.com
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QUESTION: I've been buying ceral on sale, but what is the best way to store it to prevent pests????
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Therese, if you can afford it, I think the very best way is a Vacuum sealer. the Til one seems to seal the best, is also the costliest at $125. I does have the advantage that you can save your preps from not only bugs, but also water in case there is that kind of a problem. You can pre-measure your dry mixes for bread, save yourself the mess later when cleaning up is more problematic. The bags and rolls for the sealer are also not cheap, so I try to use them prudently, but overall I think its a good investment. At a minimum it TRIPLES the length of time you can store your preps. They are available on the net and at Walmart, look for the green leaf on the box. I had bought a Black & Decker one first for about $55 and had to return it. It sealed fine, but the bags leaked within a couple of hours.
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After a little mishap caused by using the computer, microwave and coffeepot at the same time I've added fuses to my buy list.
Earlier today I worked on decluttering the pantry shelves. Everything I bought last week is either on the kitchen floor or still in the trunk of the car. I've never had so many canned goods and most of the shelves had become a convenient place to toss odd junk. |
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Femvet thanks for the info about the vacuum sealer. There is so many differing posts about storing. Oxygen absorbers, bay leaves, freezing- it's overwhelming!
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I bought two ternips from the store.
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Trust in the good lord and all will be saved.
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I would suggest making up menus. I have about 25 different menus for lunch and dinner. When you decide what you want to eat, figure the amount of food to cook these meals. sample
Beef tips and rice
Green beans
I will need one quart jar beef chucks, one can cream of mushroom soup, and 2 can green beanand one cup raw rice.. If Planning on three months of supplies and going to have beef tips weekly, I will need enough to plan 13 meals of beef tips. By doing the menu plan you can find where the holes are in your planning. I found I was short on a number of item when I started setting up my menus.
I also have breakfast menus set up.
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Very smart! Can you do taco meat? That would be great if you could. I do have cans of refried beans on my shelves, but the taco meat is the best.
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You might want to can your meat plain and put the seasoning in after opening so you will have more choices of how to use it.
I am planning tacos, enchilatas, quesildias(SP),soup,goulash, and will use the same meat for all, just season differently. Edited by arklatex - April 10 2006 at 12:31pm |
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I used the menu method of preps needed too. Be sure to get an approximation of calories per meal too. I was suprised at low calorie amounts of some foods. You can increase them by using things like fats, evaporated milk, cream soups, canned cheeses, sauces and the like. I know sugar can increase them but i don't want too much of it at any given meal.
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Today I received some tea light battery operated fake candles that I purchased on ebay along with extra batteries. They are supposed to operate for roughly 100 hours on a single battery - CR2450 type cell.
Although they don't give off a great deal of light, they are inexpensive, renewable by replacing the batteries and perfectly safe to use. They even flicker a little. No flame, heat or melted wax to worry about. Figured we can set them around in the house at night or use them on the patio. Wind won't blow them out. |
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Today I bought a battery charger for when the power comes up temporarily, I can charge my Marine batteries to power inverter. I also bought a solar/crank/battery powered radio/flashlight (GPX) - fairly happy with it. Added another large tank of propane, two more books of stamps, carbon monoxide detector. I picked up a coleman propane heater (lasts 8 hours) on one lb of propane fuel. Bought two sets of inkjet cartridges for my printer, extra light bulbs, toilet paper, paper towels, more ammo, hatchet, lots of bread mix for bread machine, and laundry chemicals
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I just read that you can substitute flaxseed for eggs in baking. Grind 2 Tablespoons of flaxseed, add 6 Tablesppons of boiling water, let mixture set for 15 minutes, then whisk with a fork. This replaces two eggs in any recipe for baked goods and is supposed to work equally well (from"Feeding the Whole Family"- Cynthia Lair)
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[/QUOTE] AVanarts said: If you are buying bulk items, there are food calculators available. www.standeyo.com has several available for free in the preparedness section of the website. He has the Mormon food calculator as well as a couple of versions of his own and maybe another as well. [/QUOTE]
This is a wonderful site - the food calculator is brilliant and was very helpful. I used it to cross check inventory.
Thanks! Edited by Spirit - April 11 2006 at 8:42am |
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I'm working on learning how to bake bread. I don't want to store the ingredients until I know I can use them. So far I've made three loaves. One was edible but not good at all. Two were my first attempt at sourdough and the dog wouldn't even eat them.
I also plan to try my kids on powdered milk this week and try the recipes for homemade cottage cheese and yogurt from powdered milk. If they work, then I'll store it. I really haven't stored anything yet. Still in the planning and learning stage which I guess still puts me ahead of 90% of the people. Money is a real problem for us as far as prepping. I had thought I would be able to at least start putting canned goods away this month but then my husband had to have emergency dental surgery which we had to pay cash up front for last week. Now we can't even afford our regular food this month -- let alone extra for preps. At least I will get a chance to see if the kids really would rather starve than eat beans and rice. I'd like to put in a garden and learn how to can but even that costs too much right now. Do you really have to buy all the special equipment to can? I mean the pressure canners, etc? Surely our ancestors didn't have electric pressure canners. |
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muttcats, one thing about powdered milk. Let it sit in the fridge overnight. Even the "instant" stuff will be better after it has had time to fully reconstitute.
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muttcats,
If bread becomes too big a challenge, make biscuits. DW says you don't even need yeast. Evidently, it's much simpler. Edited by plainsman - April 11 2006 at 10:01am |
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Therese to avoid black backgroung, mark text then edit copy paste into a word document. Beth
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I've got the dual fuel stove and assorted other stuff like that.
I have the masks and gloves. I've got some canned food. And
I have a quick plan to hit the stores the minute I hear there are cases
of H2H clusters. I can't afford to stock up on food if the bird
flu might not occur at all or could develop over the next several
years. But I'll be checking the news every day and be ready with
my plan for action....
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I had a flu for a week that turned into pneumonia and required antibiotics . I am still so sick and could sleep all day. I got the chance to try out my prepping and found my weaknes is my son prefers to eat fresh fruit and vegetables. So I plan on a large garden soon. I wish that The Who would promote the idea of a gardens like the victory gardens in Ww2. It might be a topic to present to the who as a preventative measures as a group. The more people have gardens the less the stravation.
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Muttcat, i typed a long post to you and got booted or something, will try again
Old timers at canning do not use a waterbath for pickles or jams but the federal guidelines says you must. Anything else you run the risk of having pathogens in your food. Way back when, they were put into crocks and later glass jars and boiled for hours outside in a large tub.
Look at garage sales and secondhand stores for canners and jars. You might find rings there also but be sure they are not rusted. You may have to buy a new gasket for the canner but that is doabe. Lids must be purchaced new each year and cannot be reused. Once you have the equipment you just need new lids and the foods.
If you go to the large grocery chains between about 9-10 am you can find the discounted meats. Meat is good for about 5 days after code date and can be frozen, but use it immediatly after thawing. I got 35 pounds o hamburger that way and canned it. I cut the roasts up and can those when i find them too.
Look at other places to get less expensive items. My local drugstore, Rite Aid has some good buys on hame, soups, broths and such, every so often. Ethnic scores are often less for all items...many Hispanic ones here and food is food.
If your doing the basics have condensed soups, canned broths, spices, veggies juices on hand. Use these with added water for rice and pasta dishes to add flavor and great taste. You can take a can of green beans add some mushroom soup and sprinkle with crushed cornflakes to spruce up plain veggies. Fix the rice with tomato juice add some fried onions and a bit of left over chicken for a good meal Learn how to bake the quick breads...Irish soda bread, biscuits, cornbread, shortbread, piecrust sticks and the like
Like you i have had times in my life when money was short and the real key is to make the staples taste good with just a few additives. Potatoes, onions and garlic will all hep..put the garlic of one bulb scattered around your flowers and you will never run out.
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